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Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6031
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 25, 2010 - 3:35 pm: | |
Previous thread was annoyingly wide after I'd mis-posted a screenshot. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1621
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 27, 2010 - 8:32 pm: | |
Richard, you posted that you had four winners between #118-126. I got #120 and #122 and I assume #124 is also winnable because I can get 66 with it, but after an hour and a half, I think I'm going to need a clue. HELP!!! |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1729
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 28, 2010 - 1:28 am: | |
I got your 66 the first attempt i tried with 11 in the waste. I am sure it is winnable. |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1730
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 28, 2010 - 1:30 am: | |
Got it. Will try to post a good screenshot. |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1731
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 28, 2010 - 1:34 am: | |
26 / 30 / 16
45 / 0 / 26
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Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1622
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, October 28, 2010 - 6:24 am: | |
Thanks, Markus. I'll try it when I get home from work tonight. (Are you enjoying 40 Thieves more now?) |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1732
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 28, 2010 - 9:37 am: | |
It is still a question of time. When all games would be as #124, which was solvable in about 10 minutes, then ...
BTW i am still working on #2. Gregg won it, i don't so far. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1624
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 - 3:29 am: | |
Thanks, Markus. I FINALLY got it! |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6043
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 10:03 am: | |
A screenshot of game #2 for Markus. Position 9/25/24
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Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1737
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 10:11 am: | |
I hate your "Leave me alone!". Maybe that is my fault. I can see to what this will lead. I will give him another try without your screenshot, but with that "Lma". Let's then see. |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1738
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 2:25 pm: | |
Everything i try, i cannot get the 5H into the game. Always one card less. I know, it will be a simple move i don't see, but i cannot find it.
One question: You are moving those 2 Jacks in the 7th column (to get a free column) and then you don't put the 10D from the stock onto the JD, but how did you get a 5H into play? |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6044
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 4:45 pm: | |
Markus, I told you NOT to move the JD. Proceed from this screenshot until you empty column 4. Then immediately put the 2,3,4S back down into the column you just emptied. It will be a long time before you need to think about the 5H's. The stock will be empty. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6045
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 5:09 pm: | |
Sorry, slight mistake with the above post. Empty column 4 first, then put the QD into space, then take the 2,3,4S back down.
The 10D you mentioned can go onto the JD when it appears.It is critical to be able to move the QH into the empty space and you couldn't do that if the JH was on top of it. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6046
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 5:22 pm: | |
I'll need to put the TV off, I can't concentrate. The QD goes into the space, (not the QH). |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1630
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 8:00 pm: | |
Richard, is #134 winnable? I can get 62 but I need the 2C and 4D and they are buried in the first 4 cards of the waste. |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1739
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 1:51 am: | |
#3 is unwinnable, i could score about 30.
Is #4 winnable? I think so, got 51 the first attempt, but before i spent hours, i want to know, that the effort is it worth. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1631
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 1:11 am: | |
I don't believe #4 is winnable. The next ones I show are winnable are #6, #7, and #8. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1632
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 1:14 am: | |
Check out the times. How I can post AFTER you, Markus, and be 40 minutes earlier? Did Europe just observe Daylight Saving Time? |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1740
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 1:19 am: | |
Ken, got 64 the first try. It is maybe winnable. Give him another try later. |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1741
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 1:35 am: | |
No improvement. Again just 64 points. Let's see, what Richard can make out of it.
The problem are not the buried 2C and 4D but the lots of Kings and Queens without Jacks at the end of the stock. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6047
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 3:24 am: | |
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Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1633
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 4:03 am: | |
Richard, I got #132 and #133 both in less than 5 minutes apiece but no such luck on #134. How about a clue? |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6048
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 4:30 am: | |
I wouldn't have been playing the above games continuously. We had up to 7 workmen creating an abominable din that day. I usually play a PGS game followed by a game of Hearts. I'm trying to get my winning percentage above 46% without writing down who has played what. Liz has a tendency to chatter all through everything so I keep losing my chain of thought. That can be most annoying in games like F.T. where you need to keep your wits about you.
Screenshot at 33/23/17
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Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1634
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 7:23 am: | |
Richard, you're a GENIUS!!!
Worked like a charm! Your noisy workmen hasn't decreased your skills (unlike your crankiness...) |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6049
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 7:44 am: | |
Should we analyse your last post Ken? The noisy workmen have NOT decreased my skills, UNLIKE my crankiness. They've made me LESS cranky! No problem Ken. It's an age thing. Your first Senior Moment! Ahhhh.
Those workmen loved it here. Home made soup, cheese and crackers, loads of chocolate biscuits and endless cups of tea.
One of them said to me, "Those Kellog's Squares are amazing!"
"I wouldn't know", I replied. "You lot have scoffed them all". |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1742
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 2:28 pm: | |
A single card can make the difference. Nice starting sequence with #134.
I got #6 and i am fighting with #7. Best was so far in the 50. I know it is winnable. |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1743
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 2:48 pm: | |
Got also #7. No time any more for #8. Maybe the next days. Have to work again.
It will take some weeks till i can catch you, if at all i can do that. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1636
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 1:39 am: | |
Richard, I can get 59 for #137. Have you won this one yet? |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6054
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 4:08 am: | |
Yes. Screenshot at 8/14/30
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Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1637
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 5:44 am: | |
Thanks, Richard, I'll try it when I get home tonight. Are the workmen still there? |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6055
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 6:27 am: | |
No Ken. One of them will be back on the 8th (allegedly). When you are installing an entire gas central heating system, and you choose to do so with British Gas, you would expect them not to forget to order the expletive FIRE! |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1745
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 7:47 am: | |
I hope you have another fireplace to warm up a little or is the only chance in the pu6? |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6056
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 8:48 am: | |
We are warm enough Markus. The radiators are being heated by the new gas boiler, but I went to the tavern yesterday so I could get in practice for our next excursion. Hopefully starting 10th or 11th November. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6058
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 6:48 pm: | |
Game #169 is the easiest FT we are ever likely to find. You can score 21 without turning a card in the stock. At no point did I ever have more than 7 cards in the waste. Incredible. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1638
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 2:20 am: | |
#137 was a good one. Even with your screenshot, Richard, it took me half an hour to win it. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1640
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Friday, November 05, 2010 - 8:40 am: | |
How about #148? Winnable? |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6064
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Friday, November 05, 2010 - 9:18 am: | |
Yes Ken, it's a winner. Screenshot at 9/48/8
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Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6065
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Friday, November 05, 2010 - 10:33 am: | |
BTW, did you win any between 137 and 148 Ken? |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1641
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Friday, November 05, 2010 - 10:59 am: | |
#142 and #143
How about you? |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6066
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Friday, November 05, 2010 - 12:13 pm: | |
A picture tells a M words. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1642
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Friday, November 05, 2010 - 12:32 pm: | |
What did you get for #150 and #151? They seem close (yet so far away!). |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6067
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Friday, November 05, 2010 - 2:16 pm: | |
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Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1643
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Friday, November 05, 2010 - 3:37 pm: | |
I actually got 51 on #150 and still working on #151. I'll let you know if I need a clue. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6071
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2010 - 4:50 am: | |
I can get 52 consistently with #150 now Ken. The damage is done very early in the game when twos are buried. Unwinnable in my opinion. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1644
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2010 - 6:59 am: | |
I agree about #150. I surmised the same thing about the early 2's. (BTW, I did finally win #151) |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6072
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2010 - 9:41 am: | |
I followed 151 up with a very poor run. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1645
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2010 - 7:43 am: | |
Richard, what did you get for #156? My top score is 67 so it MUST be winnable! |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6073
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2010 - 8:55 am: | |
Doesn't look like I spent much time on it Ken. I have just 45 recorded as a score, although it may have gone higher. I'll replay it and let you know. BTW, I have had about 3 60+ games that I couldn't win. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6074
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2010 - 9:06 am: | |
Drat.That didn't take long.
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Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1646
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2010 - 11:53 am: | |
Well, it's taking me long! I can't get above 67. How about a clue? |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6075
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2010 - 12:16 pm: | |
Getting the spades sorted out seemed to do the trick Ken.
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Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6076
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2010 - 12:27 pm: | |
Sorry....35/22/19 is the above position. |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1746
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2010 - 1:49 pm: | |
Ken, i have a similar problem with #8. Can score 62 and often in the high fifties, but cannot find the one tricky move. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6077
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2010 - 1:58 pm: | |
Here is a partial for #8 Markus 15/22/27
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Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1747
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2010 - 3:00 pm: | |
Thanks, i would never have played the start as you did. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1647
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2010 - 5:04 pm: | |
My thanks also, Richard. That was a hard game! I couldn't even make it to the position you posted, but while I was floundering around, I eventually won the damn thing! BTW, did you get the "test" I sent you? I figured you'd be an expert at that! |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6078
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2010 - 6:45 pm: | |
Thanks for the test.I wasn't on the ball though Ken. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6080
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - 5:21 am: | |
Here is a quotation from K.M., "I don't believe #4 is winnable".
Here is a screenshot from R.M.
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Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6081
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - 5:26 am: | |
I thought I posted this one last night. I was at a loose end and thought I'd give a couple of losers another try. I got this one at the first attempt. With the correct opening sequence I'd go as far as to say it is easy.
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Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1648
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - 6:10 am: | |
I am IMPRESSED with #4, but I had won #105 a month ago. After #156, I assume the next one you won was #160, right? |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6082
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - 6:20 am: | |
Yes 160 was my next winner Ken. It's funny just how differently you can play a game after leaving it alone for a while. #4 didn't give me much trouble at all. I got an idea from the first attempt and it did the biz in the replay. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1649
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - 7:04 am: | |
Richard, check your e-mail. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6083
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - 8:33 am: | |
Will do.
For some strange reason I have no stats for games between #11 and #101. However I do have saved winning games for 13,14,37 and 74 !!! Could you email me a screenshot of your stats for the bald patch, or just let me know which you have won? |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6084
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - 8:38 am: | |
AMAZING!!!!!
We were both thinking the same thing at the same time. Thanks for your list. I'll email mine as soon as I get a chance. |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1749
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - 10:30 am: | |
Watching all posts i found to FT you seemed to have had the following winners:
2, 6, 7, 8, 13, 15, 16 (?), 27, 29, 31, 32, 33 (?), 35 (?), 37, 38, 41, 45, 46, 50, 53, 56, 67, 72, 74
More i didn't watch.
#4 i have had always the feeling, that it should be winnable, but you both couldn't win it some time ago, so i gave up very fast, just tried to get nearly the score you could do. |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1750
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - 10:31 am: | |
I forgot #23! |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1751
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - 10:51 am: | |
How about #14. I can score 59. It should be a winner. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1650
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - 5:17 pm: | |
Markus, #14 is definitely winnable. What about #31? Have you won that? That's the only one on your list that I haven't won. |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1752
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 1:53 am: | |
Ken i play in climb mode, so i am at #14, far from #31. I took those numbers from the first thread.
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Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1651
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 3:57 am: | |
Markus, interestingly enough, I won #31 in Rough Rider but I didn't in FT, but since they're essentially the same game, I guess I didn't try hard enough! |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6085
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 3:58 am: | |
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Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1653
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 15, 2010 - 12:38 am: | |
Markus, I can get 55 on #166. Can you do better? |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1766
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Monday, November 15, 2010 - 1:09 am: | |
Will try it, when i find some time. I am still stuck with #14. 60 points and 20 cards left, just one card from winning it. Any hint? |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1767
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Monday, November 15, 2010 - 1:41 am: | |
In a quick overlook i could score 44 points. I doubt that it is winnable, because the two 8D are blocking and the 7D are missing. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1654
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 15, 2010 - 3:19 am: | |
Hate to tell you Markus but #14 only took me 14 minutes but unlike Richard, I don't save my games. I'll try to solve it again and let you know. BTW, on #166, the other stumbling block is the 3H buried in the waste. |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1768
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Monday, November 15, 2010 - 4:15 am: | |
That's the problem i have with FT. I would be glad, when i can play 15 minutes in a row. Mostly i can allow me about 10 minutes (2 Thieves of Egypt games). Next time i can try is then mostly one or two days later (or even more), so i forgot the sequences i already tried. With #14 i think, there is just one simple move i oversaw so far, but cannot find it.
BTW Ken, how about the Thieves of Egypt game you are playing for some weeks? ;-) |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1655
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 15, 2010 - 8:07 am: | |
That would definitely be a handicap! As for Thieves of Egypt, I've been concentrating so much on FT, I haven't got back to it yet. |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1769
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Monday, November 15, 2010 - 8:49 am: | |
Had another 10 minutes to try your number. 45 is so far the best. I would say, definitely unwinnable. There are two 3s buried in the waste and the two 8D and the second KH is blocking all. I would wonder if Richard can do it, but he is the magician, who knows. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1656
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 15, 2010 - 1:20 pm: | |
Thanks for trying, Markus. It will be interesting to hear Richard's take on it. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1657
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2010 - 8:35 pm: | |
Markus, take a break from #14 and see if you can help me with #171. I can get 60 so far. |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1770
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 3:45 am: | |
I can get 62/0/20 . The problem is the second 3C and the second 8D which are buried in the waste and too many high cards are blocking them.
That's a game for Richard. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1658
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 6:12 am: | |
Markus, I saw the same problems. Thanks for trying! |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1659
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 6:17 pm: | |
RICHARD, WHERE ARE YOU??????????
This one is driving me crazy. Markus is probably right about #171. But I just feel it's winnable. I've got it to 62/0/17 (not much better than Markus', but at least it's an improvement.) |
Kathy Quade (Kathyquade)
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Username: Kathyquade
Post Number: 1483
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 9:41 pm: | |
Ken, Richard's off traveling again. I don't know when he's coming back. |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
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Username: Markus
Post Number: 1771
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 11:58 pm: | |
Ken, post a screenshot after your starting sequence and one later, so can overlook your variation.
Did you put the first or the second 3C into the empty space? I think the problems would be the same.
You can also put a solution of your 62/0/17, but i cannot say, if i find time to overlook it today at work. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1660
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Friday, November 19, 2010 - 6:25 am: | |
Markus, I tried every combination I could think of. I worked on it for over 2 hours. I think we will just have to wait for Richard to get back from holiday. (It's nice to know that he celebrates Thanksgiving over there in Scotland!) |
Mike Butler (Butler77)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Butler77
Post Number: 1979
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Friday, November 19, 2010 - 12:29 pm: | |
He is giving thanks for having us to talk to.
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Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6096
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2010 - 10:57 am: | |
Post a partial Ken. I'll give it a try meantime. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6097
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2010 - 11:33 am: | |
Frustrating!
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Markus Reischl (Markus)
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Username: Markus
Post Number: 1775
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2010 - 12:50 pm: | |
Richard, any hint for #14? |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6099
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2010 - 2:29 pm: | |
Kenneth...........you were right. 
I'll get back to you with #14 Markus. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6100
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2010 - 3:18 pm: | |
Markus, I only have one saved game for #14 and it is just of a final position with 55 scored. I've rerun it a few times and it appears to be pretty useless. Sorry. (If you still want it I can upload it). |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1661
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2010 - 7:43 pm: | |
Markus, I don't know if I ever posted this before, but 2 years ago (almost to the day) I won #14 and it only took me 14 minutes!!! But I have tried to re-win it numerous times and I'm having no luck! Thank God you and Richard are having such a hard time also or I would say it is the early onset of Alzheimer's for me. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1662
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2010 - 8:53 pm: | |
Richard and Markus, try #184. My max score is 62.
P.S. Welcome back from holiday, Richard!!! |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1778
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 1:45 am: | |
Ken, you won #14 in 14 minutes, but how often you restarted the game? I don't think, you played it just one time and i am glad you have now the same problems.
Richard, i am still hoping for some help. I get stuck always with the same score. Best so far 60 (or 62) points. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6102
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 5:36 am: | |
Tricky.
(Tricky Dickie strikes again). |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6103
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 5:48 am: | |
#14 for Markus. An early screenshot. An important decision has already been made.
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Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1663
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 6:34 am: | |
Markus, I played it in climb mode in PGS101. So it doesn't matter if I re-started the game or not. It records ALL the time one took. BTW, Richard, no screenshot for me? I knew you always liked Markus more than me! |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
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Username: Markus
Post Number: 1779
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 6:36 am: | |
Richard, are you sure your screenshot is from #14?
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Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1664
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 6:49 am: | |
Markus, That is very interesting. When I pull up FT in PGS, it shows Richard's layout. But when I pull up FT in PGS101 (same #), it shows your layout. I thought they were supposed to be the same. Maybe Gregg can explain what the problem is! |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6104
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 7:45 am: | |
Oh dear. Houston we have a problem.
I scored 57 with my first attempt at your (101) #14 Markus |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6105
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 8:15 am: | |
You want a screenshot Ken? Try this one.
 
What was it the Rolling Stones sang?
Oh yes..... "Time is on my side". |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6106
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 8:23 am: | |
"Nick nack paddy wack give the dog a bone"
I'll have you barking mad before I'm done. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6107
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 8:29 am: | |
For Markus. 9/16/30
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Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6108
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 9:26 am: | |
BTW Ken, you should try #14 in PGS. It is far from easy. |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
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Username: Markus
Post Number: 1780
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 1:58 pm: | |
Richard, i know this position. It is in my solution with 57/0/16. It seems, that after that i am doing something wrong. I will try again. Very frustrating, especially knowing, my starting sequence was right. |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
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Username: Markus
Post Number: 1781
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 2:02 pm: | |
I don't know what i am doing wrong. I cannot find the one card which is missing from winning it. The next card is the AD with which you can get a free column. But all i try, i cannot do it. Which card do you put into the free column or don't you put one in there? I thought i have tried from this position every possibility but it seems that one is missing.
P.s.: Both posts are so close, because i forgot before to click onto the send button. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 6110
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 2:20 pm: | |
Here is a more advanced position. 15/10/33
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Markus Reischl (Markus)
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Username: Markus
Post Number: 1782
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 3:02 pm: | |
This one is driving me crazy. No new position Richard. You can get the 4th column free put the 5H into it, then the 6S and the 5S, 4C, 8C, 3C or in a similar way, waiting for the 4H, ... All i try, it leads me to the following position (or in a similar arrangement):
I get always stuck with the 7S on the waste. Behind that is the 8S, and then the 7H i am waiting for (or very near). The problem i cannot solve is to get the 7S into the game. I tried every idea i have had. Putting cards back from the foundation, and so on, and so on.
What do i oversee? |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6111
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 3:50 pm: | |
I don't know what else I can do other than giving you screenshots Markus.
Take a look at this one. It is winnable from here despite having 25 cards in the waste and no stock. FORGET about the AD.
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Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1665
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 4:38 pm: | |
GREGG, WHERE ARE YOU?????????
I would still like an explanation as to why #14 is different in PGS and PGS101. For example, #184 (which Richard isn't going to post a screenshot clue unless I beg) is the same in PGS and PGS101. So why isn't #14 the same? Richard, do you remember me posting a couple of months back about a game I couldn't win, and you posted a screenshot and it was totally different than the game I was playing? Maybe it's an intermittent problem (and my brother, the auto mechanic, says those are the hardest ones to fix!) |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6112
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 4:58 pm: | |
Game 184.Here is a screenshot for you Ken.At 29/23/20
To get here I kept a column empty for ages and refused the card beneath the 2S in this shot. Once you get the 2-9S up you need to put the other 6S and 7S into the empty column and liberate the other 2S and 3S. NOW you can play the 4D.
Yes Ken, this situation was discussed before, perhaps even with FT#14, I can't recall. I doubt if Gregg/Thomas will rectify it at this late date. Personally I think that they left it like that just to wind Markus up. |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
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Username: Markus
Post Number: 1783
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 - 3:26 am: | |
Richard, i know you try your best to help me. I tried everything your explained. I had free columns very till the end, i didn's bother about the AD. I also used the KD and QD from the stock and not from the 8th column and i know i am so close. There is just one move i am doing wrongly at the end of the game. You cannot do more then your screenshots and i don't more. I think i can see one thing which is different than normal. I will try it again today eves. I just have to find the one move which is changing everything. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 6113
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 - 4:32 am: | |
Markus, if you could manage to get to my final screenshot position there is practically no choice of moves that can be made. You would eventually arrive at this one, where the 7S shows up. (55/0/18). At this point you take the spades back off of the foundations until you have a column of spades from queen down to five. Then you put the other 5 and 6 of spades up plus the 7S from the waste.
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Markus Reischl (Markus)
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Username: Markus
Post Number: 1784
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 - 5:53 am: | |
Ahhhhh, i understand. I tried to put back down the Diamonds and the Clubs, but not the Spades, don't ask why. I think i don't need your screenshots. I will let you know.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr , it is so obvious. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr ... |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
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Post Number: 1785
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 - 11:09 am: | |
Believe it or don't believe it.
I am glad, that the time stopped at 99:59.9. I have had one wrong card in my starting sequence and that has changed all. (Interesting is, that the positions have been the same, but in the end it has made the big difference.) |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 6114
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 - 11:22 am: | |
Perhaps this would have been better for recording your time Markus.
 
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Markus Reischl (Markus)
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Username: Markus
Post Number: 1786
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 - 11:30 am: | |
That's MY laughing smiley. 
BTW: 
Believe it or not: i got it the first time with just 2 undos. Ok, it was a very easy one. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6115
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 - 11:48 am: | |
Yes Markus, it IS your smiley. (I thought you could have a little laugh at yourself too).
I say it repeatedly, it makes no difference to me how long anyone takes to win a game. You won it. That's all that matters. |
Gregg Seelhoff (Seelhoff)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Seelhoff
Post Number: 511
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 - 6:37 pm: | |
Lots of points to address...
>When I pull up FT in PGS, it shows Richard's layout. But when I pull up FT in PGS101 (same #), it shows your layout. I thought they were supposed to be the same. Maybe Gregg can explain what the problem is!
Confirmed. #14 is a magic number for games with 2 decks of cards. We put these in to make things interesting.  (Not really; I will explain below.)
>Oh dear. Houston we have a problem.
I lived in Houston for three years, and I can confirm that was a problem.
>GREGG, WHERE ARE YOU?????????
I was putting the finishing touches on the 300th game for Pretty Good Solitaire Mac Edition.
>I would still like an explanation as to why #14 is different in PGS and PGS101.
Non-technical explanation: The deals are all supposed to match, but every once in a great while they do not. We never found any problems in our testing, and it took 5 years before anybody noticed a discrepancy.
Semi-technical explanation: The deal number is used as a seed for the random number generator that determines how a deck is shuffled and every once in a great while, the results from the algorithm differ slightly between products.
Technical explanation: MPSol/GS101/PGSME are written in C++, which handles floating point rounding in a standard manner, while PGS (original) is written in Visual Basic, which uses a different rounding method. The random number generator algorithm uses floating point, which has inherent truncation errors, and every so often an error occurs in just the right way that the differing rounding methods come into play, giving a very slight difference in results. However, both the RNG and shuffle algorithms feed back into themselves, so as soon as one error occurs, the resulting chaos (in the scientific sense) quickly causes the results to be very different (our own little Butterfly Effect).
>Maybe it's an intermittent problem (and my brother, the auto mechanic, says those are the hardest ones to fix!)
Your brother is absolutely correct, but this problem is not actually intermittent; the behavior is perfectly reproducible.
>Yes Ken, this situation was discussed before, perhaps even with FT#14, I can't recall. I doubt if Gregg/Thomas will rectify it at this late date. Personally I think that they left it like that just to wind Markus up.
You are correct that we are not going to change this behavior at this point (especially since it could invalidate some climb mode results). It will eventually become a moot point, though.
I hope that answers your questions, and now we can concentrate on discovering the list of magic numbers for each 1, 2, 3, and 4 deck games (and the "Chinese" 3-suit games, too). |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1666
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 - 9:49 pm: | |
Very interesting, Gregg! Let me ask you a question: could it ever change within the same product for the same game? I was working on a # a while back and Richard posted a partial that wasn't anywhere close to what I had. When I restarted my game, it then defaulted to what Richard had posted. It has only happened once (thank God!) but needless to say it was very frustrating! |
Mike Butler (Butler77)
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Username: Butler77
Post Number: 1983
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 - 10:27 pm: | |
I did well with the Non-Technical explaination. Not very well with the Semi-Technical one. And failed miserably with the Technical explaination. Is there one below Non-Technical. As I remember we had a question about a #14 hand a while back. Could have been in Eight Off. It looks like someone has learned more about the problem since then. Well done Gregg. |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
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Username: Markus
Post Number: 1787
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 1:39 am: | |
"I was putting the finishing touches on the 300th game for Pretty Good Solitaire Mac Edition."
Gregg, i am glad to hear that. When i remember right, then we talked about it about at the beginning of the year 2010. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6116
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 3:47 am: | |
Mike....A sub non-tech explanation is covered by the universal cliché ...."Shit happens". I find that it works for me.
Gregg.... You don't have time to loiter idly around here posting comprehensive explanations. You should be working on 301 - 400 for the Mac guys. There is a limit to their patience....(pun very much intended). |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
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Post Number: 1788
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 4:03 am: | |
Richard, you have my totally agreement. |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
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Username: Markus
Post Number: 1789
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 4:03 am: | |
Richard, you have my total agreement. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6117
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 4:16 am: | |
That's no ly. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1668
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 6:20 am: | |
You can say shit on this board but you can't say 8eer? What's wrong with this picture? |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6118
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 7:31 am: | |
Something stinks! |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
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Username: Markus
Post Number: 1790
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 8:10 am: | |
"That's no ly."
As you could see, i posted it twice, because i saw my mistake, unbelievable. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6119
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 9:10 am: | |
Just a spontaneous play on words Markus.... "That's no lie" sounds identical. |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
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Username: Markus
Post Number: 1791
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 1:12 pm: | |
Don't demand from me such word-plays, especially, when i have to do the work for two. My chef is on a "advanced training" (?). |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6124
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 2:44 pm: | |
Did you mean chef or chief Markus? There is a big difference. |
Kathy Quade (Kathyquade)
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Username: Kathyquade
Post Number: 1486
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 10:21 pm: | |
Richard, you forgot to post a WARNING FOR KATHY in your above post! |
Mike Butler (Butler77)
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Username: Butler77
Post Number: 1987
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 12:14 am: | |
Kathy. Beware of the chef. He may hit the fan. |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
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Username: Markus
Post Number: 1793
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 3:47 am: | |
I think, i meant chief, but what is then chef? |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6128
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 3:52 am: | |
A head chef is a person who is in charge of a hotel or a restaurant kitchen Markus. A highly qualified cook. It is pronounced sheff. |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
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Username: Markus
Post Number: 1796
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 5:13 am: | |
And why did Mike mean, that you should have used the WARNING FOR KATHY??? |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6133
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 6:26 am: | |
There is a commonly used phrase in English about "the xxxx hitting the fan". Mike linked that back to an even more common phrase, "xxxx happens" that I'd used previously. That's what Kathy had been on about. But even with the four x's we all know exactly what it means so what use would a warning be? |
Larry Dale (Lars)
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Username: Lars
Post Number: 65
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 8:12 am: | |
Richard,
Could you post an early screenshot from your winning # 171.
Thanks,
Larry |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6135
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 9:21 am: | |
Here is your screenshot Larry. The advice given is critical. It took me many many attempts before I thought of playing this daft looking move.
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Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6136
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 9:28 am: | |
Although the position in the above screenshot should be pretty obvious, I should have said that it is at 2/61/2, and for game #171. |
Kathy Quade (Kathyquade)
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Username: Kathyquade
Post Number: 1491
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 11:27 am: | |
Since we all know what they mean, why not use the xxxx's instead. That way my one good eye doesn't have to look at a dirty word. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6138
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 12:05 pm: | |
Dyslexic people think that carp is a dirty word. |
Mike Butler (Butler77)
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Username: Butler77
Post Number: 1988
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 12:44 pm: | |
Prac? Oh wait. I know what that means. It's the fear of dirty words. |
Kathy Quade (Kathyquade)
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Username: Kathyquade
Post Number: 1493
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 3:58 pm: | |
No fair playing word games with me, Richard. If it isn't a dirty word, then why do people use xxxx's instead sometimes? |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6140
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Friday, November 26, 2010 - 4:15 am: | |
Larry, the early screenshot you requested for #171 was perhaps too early. Here is a more advanced one at 6/35/16.
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Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1669
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Friday, November 26, 2010 - 8:50 am: | |
Richard, how about #198? My best score is 62. (62 seems to be always my best score!) I am one card away from freeing the 5S (which seems to be the key). HELP! |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1670
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Friday, November 26, 2010 - 9:01 am: | |
I've got it up to 67. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6142
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Friday, November 26, 2010 - 9:05 am: | |
58 and 62 are my best scores with it Ken. Your partial may help me improve on that though. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1671
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Friday, November 26, 2010 - 9:35 am: | |
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Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6143
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Friday, November 26, 2010 - 9:52 am: | |
Blinding effort Ken!!!!
No sure if it can be improved though. Will keep trying. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6144
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Friday, November 26, 2010 - 10:56 am: | |
I can get 68 but with 19 left in the waste, or 67 with 17 wasted. Every card I identify as capable of making the difference is at the beginning of the stock. Probably unwinnable, but we've given it a fright. |
Larry Dale (Lars)
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Username: Lars
Post Number: 66
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Friday, November 26, 2010 - 11:04 pm: | |
Richard,
You say daft, I say deft.
Larry |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6146
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, November 27, 2010 - 4:03 am: | |
Ha! That's clever, Larry. I will admit that I was far from confident that particular strategy would work. I just knew that the absence of the JS near the end of the game was what was creating problems. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1672
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, November 27, 2010 - 10:12 am: | |
Richard, maybe you'll have better luck with #204. Because (as usual) I can get 62 and no more. Let me know if you need my partial. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6148
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, November 27, 2010 - 10:51 am: | |
I got that one Ken.
I suspect you must be perilously close to winning it though, you've just not sussed out how.
Screenshot at 61/0/23
Make the obvious moves first then take the spades down from the foundations until you can put the 6S and 7S up. Then when you think you should put the spades from column 6 up, put the other ones up instead. I still had the 5S etc on column 6 when I emptied the stock. GREAT game.
BTW. Check your emails. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1673
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, November 27, 2010 - 11:37 am: | |
Thanks, Richard, I'll try it. BTW, I also got #202 and #203. |
Larry Dale (Lars)
Advanced Solitaire Player
Username: Lars
Post Number: 67
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, November 27, 2010 - 3:49 pm: | |
Richard,
How about an early screenshot (or saved game) for #204.
Thanks,
Larry |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6151
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, November 27, 2010 - 5:39 pm: | |
Your screenshot for #204 Larry at 6/43/12. The next move is the 7S. I also posted one for very late in the same game (a couple of posts above this).
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Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6152
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 29, 2010 - 5:58 am: | |
OK then playmates, let's hear how much you can score with #97. My first attempt was just 5 but more is possible. How far can we push it? |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1675
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 29, 2010 - 6:38 am: | |
OK, Richard, my first question to you is: how much cabin fever do you already have if you're replaying games that you got an initial score of 5 from?? And in answer to your question I can get 33. What's your best score so far? |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6153
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 29, 2010 - 7:29 am: | |
I hate you! Couldn't you have reported a lower score? Even one digit lower would have kept me happy.
Cabin fever is right! The snow is bad. We dug the car out earlier today so that we could get some provisions. We thought we were doing quite well before a snow-plough came down the road and piled up another lot behind us.
We had a very rare weather phenomenon the other night. Simultaneous thunder, lightening and snow!
What did you make of those thousands of leaked U.S.government documents. Is there ANY country that they haven't slagged off? It is rank incompetence that they hadn't taken steps to avoid this. Every government discusses things behind closed doors and says things that they presume will remain secret. Private individuals do exactly the same thing. To get caught out by this magnitude is appalling. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6154
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 29, 2010 - 7:31 am: | |
Sorry, I should have said that we both got the same score. I doubt if it can be improved. |
Kathy Quade (Kathyquade)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Kathyquade
Post Number: 1497
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 29, 2010 - 8:13 am: | |
From what I read, the US asked Iceland (where I take it this man is now living) to shut the site down, but Iceland refused. I know it is being looked into whether the man can be prosecuted for this, but no conclusion has been reached yet. It would be interesting also if they found out who is leaking the information this time. Shouldn't your anger be more towards Wikileaks than the US? |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6155
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 29, 2010 - 8:25 am: | |
Kathy,How did you manage to read into my post that I am angry towards the USA regarding this? I hoped I'd made it clear that everyone from private citizens to every government in the world has secrets that we'd prefer to remain secret. Our lot are no better than yours.
The guy is no better than a blackmailer and should be treated like any other two-bit terrorist. He is putting lives in danger.Personally I hope he has an accident, a bad one. Real soon. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6156
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 29, 2010 - 8:46 am: | |
Here is the U.K.'s response to this situation......
A spokesman for the Foreign Office said the strong relationship between the UK and the US would continue.
The spokesman said: "We condemn any unauthorised release of this classified information, just as we condemn leaks of classified material in the UK".
"They can damage national security, are not in the national interest and, as the US have said, may put lives at risk. We have a very strong relationship with the US Government. That will continue". |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6157
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 29, 2010 - 10:00 am: | |
I've just committed the cardinal PGS sin. I replayed a FT game I'd previously only scored 35 with, won it after quite a lot of difficulty, and forgot to save it!  |
Mike Butler (Butler77)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Butler77
Post Number: 1991
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 29, 2010 - 1:17 pm: | |
Well I hope as a penence the Cardinal comes and dumps more snow on your car. We are stocked here in case of emergency. Mostly water and potato chips. Of course in case of an earthquake it will all be buried under rubble. But we will be too. |
Kathy Quade (Kathyquade)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Kathyquade
Post Number: 1498
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 29, 2010 - 2:17 pm: | |
I guess I misunderstood you, Richard. When you talked of incompetence, I thought you were referring to the US government being incompetent, not that I don't think that sometimes, but I don't know if this time there was anything the US could do to stop it from happening. I also though think it was irresponsible for the various papers, including the New York Times, to publish the leaks. It was as if they couldn't wait for the trouble to start. BTW, I don't think much of the New York Times at all. They publish lies and half truths all the time, so being irresponsible shouldn't bother them at all. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6158
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 29, 2010 - 3:06 pm: | |
Some IT advisor was definitely being incompetent Kathy. The government should have been advised about this vulnerable area in their security. Some of our newspapers will publicize bits of these files. By and large the public will be bored stupid by it in no time flat. It appears that you have already got the culprit banged up. I suspect that the CIA and other more sinister security services will be trying to lay their hands on the website's owner. He is kidding himself on if he thinks he is going to get away with this.
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Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6159
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 29, 2010 - 3:12 pm: | |
Water? Water? I've certainly heard of it Mike.
We already had sufficient provisions to withstand a siege, but it appears to be part of a woman's job to worry about things like this. We can now withstand two sieges. The Scotsman's security..... belt AND braces. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1676
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 29, 2010 - 7:03 pm: | |
Re FT #121: More like a mortal sin. I can't get a score any better than 25! |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1677
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 29, 2010 - 7:38 pm: | |
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Kathy Quade (Kathyquade)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Kathyquade
Post Number: 1499
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 29, 2010 - 10:30 pm: | |
I heard tonight from a legal analyst that although the owner of WikiLeaks cannot be prosecuted here in the US for treason since he is not a citizen, he can be extradited here when he is found (and believe me he will be found) and tried for espionage. The American private who leaked the information is already in custody here in the US and faces charges of treason. You are right, I heard no one today when I was at the senior center discussing the situation. I don't know why. It is am embarrassing situation for the US if nothing else, but most people don't seem to be interested. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6160
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 4:30 am: | |
Kathy, Our news showed an interview with the culprit. He is holed in in Jordan apparently. The general public have already decided that his disclosures are not worth discussing.
Yes Ken, "UNBELIEBABLE" was exactly what I uttered when I won it. It just didn't look possible. Cabin fever doesn't harm the thought processes apparently. I've upped my scores with practically every one I've replayed, sometimes dramatically. |
Kathy Quade (Kathyquade)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Kathyquade
Post Number: 1500
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 4:38 am: | |
Did you know that playing games like Solitaire and doing difficult crossword puzzles can keep your mind sharp? That is one of the reasons I play PGS so much besides just liking it. If I can get my new glasses soon, I am going to start doing crosswords again. I found an eye doctor who accepts Medicare, and the Lion's Club helps people with no money to get glasses. It will be nice to really see again even if it is only with one good eye. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6163
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 9:58 am: | |
Anything that involves mental activity is good for the old grey matter Kathy. When we are home I play PGS most of the time.
I'm pleased that you will be getting new glasses soon. I know I am frequently very flippant but failing eyesight is something that never amuses me. Liz and I always do crosswords when we are on holiday. |
Kathy Quade (Kathyquade)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Kathyquade
Post Number: 1501
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 3:47 pm: | |
BTW, Richard, how is the weather there were you are? Is it getting better or worse? If it's any consolation, it's 32 degrees here with a wind chill of 19 degrees, and it's going to snow tonight. My birds are eating me out of house and home. It's like they wait for me to come home in the afternoon to feed them, and they really go at it. I hope I have enough seed to last until Friday when I get my Social Security. I hope you are keeping our feathered friends fed and happy too. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6164
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 4:32 pm: | |
We have had less snow today, but we have had easily 18" in total. Temperatures have rarely been above freezing for several days and an overnight temperature of 0°F/(-20°C) was recorded further south yesterday.
Liz got several loaves and several blocks of lard when she went shopping the other day. I take the snow shovel and clear about 20 square yards in our back yard every day. The birds are being well looked after. |
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul
Post Number: 680
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 5:00 pm: | |
Strangely in Southeast Essex we hardly get any snow but is has been snowing all day here.
I have played 5 games of Quad interchange today keeping warm indoors |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6167
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 5:44 am: | |
We had about another 5 or 6 inches yesterday Paul. Many people can't get out of their homes, me included. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6168
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 5:47 am: | |
OK, let's see how much you can score with #68 Kenneth, (and any other volunteers). |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1801
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 6:00 am: | |
How bad, Richard, you have to stay inside and you have to play PGS. I am feeling with you. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6169
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 7:50 am: | |
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Mike Butler (Butler77)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Butler77
Post Number: 1992
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 11:11 am: | |
Richard Mechen cannot leave the house. The community is safe. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6170
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 12:56 pm: | |
Safe-ish!
Here is a photo of our garden. I took it today.
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Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1802
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 1:47 pm: | |
I hope your cellar is well filled with enough to drink, otherwise you have to melt snow and drink water. But thank god, that you have enough to melt. But be care of the halizunations (?) after too much water.  |
Kathy Quade (Kathyquade)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Kathyquade
Post Number: 1506
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 1:50 pm: | |
If Richard can't leave the house, how did he get to the pub? Or did he stock up for an emergency such as this? BTW, is that what a garden looks like in Scotland, Richard? |
Kathy Quade (Kathyquade)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Kathyquade
Post Number: 1507
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 2:11 pm: | |
Richard, trying to figure out how to get to the pub.
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Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6171
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 2:46 pm: | |
Just for the record, the last time I was in a pub was on Saturday 20th November. There is beer in the fridge but I've not touched that for weeks either. I just grin and Bear it. |
Mike Butler (Butler77)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Butler77
Post Number: 1993
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 4:19 pm: | |
Beer works! |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6173
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 4:50 pm: | |
Ken works. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1679
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 5:58 pm: | |
Unfortunately.... |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6174
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 6:02 pm: | |
Have you a score for #68 yet Ken? Unwinnable but interesting. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1682
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 - 6:47 am: | |
When I first played it my score was 22. Now I can get it up to 27!! What should I be shooting for? |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6177
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 - 7:14 am: | |
I managed 33. I was stunned! |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6178
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 - 7:16 am: | |
I should have said...... my average score for the first 100 is now 68.41. Eat your hearts out guys. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1683
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 - 3:59 pm: | |
Richard, that is EXCELLENT! My average for the first 100 games is 52.3 I know I have said this numerous times (my parents will be making their annual winter sojourn to my place next month so I might as well get used to repeating myself) but why don't you post your stats, Richard. I know you don't care yadda yadda yadda...but since there has been much discussion on this board about how unfair PGS101 is in just counting points and no consideration whatsoever to games won, I think by posting your stats you can beat them at their own game.
P.S. to Markus: How are you coming along with FT? What # are you on? |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6180
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 - 4:41 pm: | |
No time for complacency Ken, it's now 68.58.
I am playing FT in PGS, or to be more accurate WE are playing in PGS. I have three player names but somehow or other Liz always manages to blooter them by playing loads of games before I'm even out of my bed. Then I nuke them and start over. I am keeping a list of all my FT scores in a document. I've replayed loads of them loads of times. My average is the average of my best scores for the first 100. Beating any of them is becoming more and more difficult so I will probably move onto the second 100 fairly soon. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1685
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 - 5:19 pm: | |
Richard, I am curious about your scores for:
#24 my best score is 58
#39 50
#55 50
#59 53
#64 53
#100 55
How do I match up to your scores? What's your best non-winning score in the first 100 numbers? (Mine is 58 for #24). |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6182
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 - 5:28 pm: | |
24 = 59
39 = 56
55 = 67 yes!
59 = 53
64 = 58
100 = 58
# 86 is my most recent winner.
Richard the Lionheart strikes again.
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Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1686
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 - 6:13 pm: | |
I can't come close to your average, Richard, and no offense but I won #86 months ago and it only took me 6 1/2 minutes! |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1687
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 - 6:25 pm: | |
Richard, are you sure #86 is the right #? You had e-mailed me 3 weeks ago and said that #86 was one of your winners already. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6183
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 - 6:27 pm: | |
Ken, See how you compare with this. More winners will boost your average.
43% winnable in the first 100.
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Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6184
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 - 6:33 pm: | |
Could be a mistake Ken. Too much blood in my alcohol-stream. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6187
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Friday, December 03, 2010 - 7:52 am: | |
68.59 is my FINAL average for numbers 1 - 100. Keen to see how I fare with the next lot. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6188
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Friday, December 03, 2010 - 3:58 pm: | |
58.82 is my average for the second 100. I've just played most of them once so there is scope for improvement. I have 36 winners in the second hundred. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1688
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, December 04, 2010 - 12:08 am: | |
Markus, how are you doing with FT? What # are you up to? |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1805
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, December 04, 2010 - 1:12 pm: | |
I am still with #16. I didn't play it for a long time. Too much work and i try to win every game at least once before the next 100 games came out for PGSME. I have still about 20 to win and within that i have about 5 games i even don't know a winning number. I will let you guys know, when i have reached those games.
On the other side i am used to play more Demons and Thieves. A game i hated first. Mostly, because i couldn't understand how some players could win them so fast, BUT it seems i found a strategy, that is working very well.
Too much work i said. Yes, e.g. i have to change before christmas the timetable for our school, christmas baking, a.s.o a.s.o. ... |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1692
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, December 04, 2010 - 2:01 pm: | |
Richard, now that you are onto the second 100 FT, how about helping a friend out with #168? You may have e-mailed me the solution and in my hubris (I thought for sure I could win it), I must have accidentally deleted your solution. How about a partial? The key seems to be 4D. They both come up in the first 12 cards and I can't get a space free until there are 28 cards in the waste. |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1806
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, December 04, 2010 - 2:24 pm: | |
I just tried again #16. I got always stuck with 59 points and 26 cards in the waste and that with 3 different starting sequences. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1693
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, December 04, 2010 - 2:35 pm: | |
Can't help you out, Markus. I never won that one. It must have been one of Richard's victories. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6193
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, December 04, 2010 - 4:07 pm: | |
#168 is a smelly one Ken. See how you get on with these screenshots.
 14/20/28
 24/24/25
 31/21/21
From the third screenshot onwards you have to figure out how to shift the diamonds onto column 3. To achieve this you will have to put a queen onto the KD (but no more). |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6194
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, December 04, 2010 - 4:11 pm: | |
Markus, I don't have #16 saved!! I'll see if I can rewin it tomorrow. I have other things to do just now. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1694
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 12:33 am: | |
That was NOT an easy one! Thanks, Richard! |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6197
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 3:36 am: | |
It sure was Ken. Even with my hints it is far from easy.
Here is a screenshot from #16 Markus. I re-won it at my second attempt. The spades were the key.
11/38/15
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Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6198
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 8:04 am: | |
I've now played all the games between 101 and 200 twice. Average score 61.95 with 38 winners. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1695
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 8:58 am: | |
GOOD SHOW, Richard! I've only got an average score of 55.7 with 34 winners (after only playing them through once).
On to the next 100? (especially since #202-204 are winnable?) |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6199
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 9:55 am: | |
OK Ken, I'll move on to the next 100. My final average was 62.09. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1696
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 11:31 am: | |
Hey, only if you want to. It'll take me a while to re-play the first 200 games and try to win the ones I know are winnable but I haven't won yet. |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1809
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 1:49 pm: | |
Got 36 points with #17. How far it is from the maximum score? |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6200
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 1:55 pm: | |
I scored 61 with #17 Markus. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1697
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 2:12 pm: | |
And I'm in between you guys: I got 43. |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1810
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 2:22 pm: | |
Ok, then i will give a second chance. Too far from maximum. Played it just once, because of knowing, that it is unwinnable. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1698
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 3:01 pm: | |
Richard, on Nov 6, we agreed that #150 was unwinnable, but in a recent e-mail you show that you have won it. Was that a mistake in your e-mail or have you pulled another one out of your a**? |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1699
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 3:08 pm: | |
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Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6201
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 3:20 pm: | |
Sad to say, if I did win it, I didn't save it, nor does it appear in my stats as I erase them regularly.
I'll pot my wits against it now. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6202
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 6:33 pm: | |
Re the typo in the above post, I wonder if my "pot" has anything to do with your "a**".
This is my best effort with #150. 
I finally managed to get a 3C into the tableau. With a lot more work it could actually be winnable but I'm bored with it now so I'll pass.
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Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6203
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Monday, December 06, 2010 - 4:43 am: | |
After a blaze of glory with 202-204, other winners have been VERY thin on the ground. 222 was my next one/won.
BTW, I altered my records regarding #150. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1700
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Monday, December 06, 2010 - 8:06 pm: | |
Richard, check your e-mail. Ken |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1701
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Monday, December 06, 2010 - 8:20 pm: | |
BTW, if you won #123, I will be in AWE!!! Because my max score (no matter how many times I play it) is a whopping FOUR! |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1811
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Monday, December 06, 2010 - 11:57 pm: | |
../18/5298.html"#cccccc"> | Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6204
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - 3:36 am: | |
Re #123 Ken, I have a note beside it in my list that says "query if won". Is it possible that you had included it in your list of winners and that I had just accepted it despite the fact that it didn't appear on mine? Whatever. Agreed on 4 maximum. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1702
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - 4:24 am: | |
Agreed! |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6205
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - 9:01 am: | |
A gluttony. |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1812
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - 1:51 pm: | |
Got 47 points with #18. More is surely possible, but how far am i from maximum? |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6206
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - 4:03 pm: | |
You've not reached half way yet Markus. |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1813
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 1:21 am: | |
Ok, you will tell me, that it is winnable. I thought i that direction, but before i waste time i wanted to be sure. When i remember right, then the problem is to get a 2D into the game. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6207
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 3:28 am: | |
Yes it is winnable Markus. I don't remember what the problems card was. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1704
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 7:07 am: | |
Markus, if it's any consolation, I didn't win that one either. Sometimes, even though I know a game is winnable, I move on for the sake of my sanity! |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6209
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 8:00 am: | |
I've replayed it a few times today and can't get it to come out either. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6210
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 8:15 am: | |
I was beginning to doubt if I really had won this one but thankfully I found some stats that had not been deleted. Phew.
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Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1818
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 8:44 am: | |
That sounds badly. Be prepared to my questions for screenshots. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6211
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 9:08 am: | |
I have NOT got a saved game Markus, otherwise I would have posted screenshots already. |
Larry Dale (Lars)
Advanced Solitaire Player
Username: Lars
Post Number: 68
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 8:42 am: | |
Richard, Markus, etal
An early screenshot for # 18.
Larry
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Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1837
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, December 12, 2010 - 1:57 am: | |
Hi Larry, thanks for the screenshot. Hadn't time so long to try it, but today i tried it and could solve it. Thanks. |
Larry Dale (Lars)
Advanced Solitaire Player
Username: Lars
Post Number: 69
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, December 19, 2010 - 11:48 am: | |
Richard,
Could you post your saved game for # 14.
Thanks,
Larry |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6256
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, December 19, 2010 - 2:04 pm: | |
See how you get on with this screenshot Larry. Position 6/29/22. It looks like I paid particular care not to play the first 3C.
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Larry Dale (Lars)
Advanced Solitaire Player
Username: Lars
Post Number: 70
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, December 19, 2010 - 11:53 pm: | |
Richard,
I came close on # 14 but probably need a
screenshot nearer the end.
Also having difficulty with # 4.
Thanks,
Larry |
Kathy Quade (Kathyquade)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Kathyquade
Post Number: 1539
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Monday, December 20, 2010 - 2:55 am: | |
Richard, what does it mean when you say "Position 6/29/22"? I've been meaning to ask you for a while but never got around to it until now. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6257
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Monday, December 20, 2010 - 3:59 am: | |
Kathy, I am referring to score/stock/waste when I give a position.
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Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6258
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Monday, December 20, 2010 - 4:07 am: | |
I'm glad Ken has managed to infect you with Forty Thieves too Larry. It's a great game that I thoroughly enjoy. I have a bad habit of not saving games though. Luckily I have both of the ones you want.
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Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1827
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, April 30, 2011 - 3:33 am: | |
How about #1753636351? My best score is 61. The problem seems to be both 3S are buried early in the stock. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6722
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, April 30, 2011 - 7:02 am: | |
Looks winnable Ken. Will work on it. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6723
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, April 30, 2011 - 7:40 am: | |
Can match your 61 Ken. The two 3S's problem is worsened by the absence of the two eights of spades. Getting one of those into the tableau would give us another valuable empty column. Will HAVE TO score 62 at least before I give up. Can't have you young whipper-snappers getting the better of me. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6724
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, April 30, 2011 - 8:27 am: | |
Drat. Always 61. Looks like we took it to the max Ken. Good game though. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1830
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, April 30, 2011 - 9:24 am: | |
Thanks for trying! |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6725
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, April 30, 2011 - 9:59 am: | |
I'm extremely trying Ken. Check this out. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1831
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, April 30, 2011 - 8:39 pm: | |
GENIUS! |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6727
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, May 01, 2011 - 5:08 am: | |
I wish the "genius" tag was true Ken. I'm trying to match (or better) some of my older scores and can't even get close! I'm going to have to start saving everything, because I'm beginning to wonder if I actually did score what my typed records say. Every time I clear my FT stats to try and get a back-up record, Liz starts playing under whatever name I've been using the night before. Why she insists on using my PC before I rise is beyond me. She uses her own at all other times. What's that old proverb about the colour of grass? I'm tempted to make some smart Alf Garnet remark about "silly old moo", but I'd better not. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1839
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 3:02 am: | |
Richard, how about #1302939008? My best score is 55. I am assuming it is unwinnable because both 7H are BURIED in the stock, but you have done more with less before.
P.S. to Kathy: Try #1971424767. It is one of the easiest Forty Thieves games I have ever played! |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6735
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 5:19 am: | |
I don't like the look of this one Ken. I've had 4 quickish attempts and just got to 50. "We" have things to do today so it will be ages before I get more time with it. If you see this before I post again I'd appreciate a partial. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1840
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 9:58 am: | |
Here you go!
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Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6737
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 10:17 am: | |
Ha! Scheming about getting away away. Don't want anything to get in my road. Just back from seeing my 70 year old biking fan. He is setting off on the 18th. I want to be ready to link up with him en route. Good news is that he's taking his son along too. Bill likes a good bucket. Thank you God.
I'd just logged on to say I'd got to 55 with your game. Have not looked at yours yet.
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Larry Dale (Lars)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Lars
Post Number: 115
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 10:23 am: | |
Ken and Richard,
Definitely winnable.
Larry |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6738
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 11:22 am: | |
Drat. My best so far is 56. (I just had to beat Ken)
You'd just be as well posting your solution Larry. I'd better try to win some more of the 500 series. I've only got to #520! Too many things to try and get organized. Breweries to support etc.
I stayed up until 03.50 this morning to watch some of the election results coming in. It has been described as "An S.N.P Tsunami". We will definitely get a referendum on Independence now. Don't know how I will vote. My heart and my head are at odds about it. |
Larry Dale (Lars)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Lars
Post Number: 116
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 11:35 pm: | |
FTer's
#1302939008 solution as ordered, sir.
Larry |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1841
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 11:46 pm: | |
Here's my solution as well.
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Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6739
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2011 - 5:36 am: | |
Well done both of you!
I will be working my magic on our garden for a day or three more. The trick is to make it smaller! I have cut out some paths etc, and will line them with a weed suppressant sheet before bringing them back to surface level with a thick layer to tree bark. I also intend putting this on every bit we have weeded. I just can't be bothered with the aggro of constantly weeding. My old joints are in complete agreement with me. Thereafter I have holidays to plan. I will raise a glass or two whilst I think about you guys. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1849
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 3:15 am: | |
Ok, you guys, how about #971378624? My best score is 62.
And just out of curiosity, Richard, Larry, Markus et al., what's the highest score of a FT game that you have not yet won? |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6753
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 4:28 am: | |
Matched your 62 pdq Ken. Looks winnable. Will let you know.
I have a hazy recollection of discussing the highest non-winning score with Markus in one of the threads. I believe we said it was 71 or 72. Perhaps he will recall exactly. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6755
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 12:58 pm: | |
No progress Ken. I must have been very fortunate to score 62 at my first attempt, with very little undoing and redoing. I should have saved it then but I thought I'd identified the problem. I restarted it and introduced the "problem" card to no avail. Now I've replayed it several times and just make scores in the 40's. I've certainly lost my train of thought. I'll replay it later and hope that I can find my original route. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1850
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 1:34 pm: | |
See if my partial helps you out.
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Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6756
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 2:16 pm: | |
Thanks Ken. Will give it another try. I see you have the 7D high and dry like I had. It was the 8D I tried introducing. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6757
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 2:21 pm: | |
Ken,I backed your partial up a few cards and liberated the 2D. The score is now 66. I still think this one is winnable. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6760
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, May 14, 2011 - 7:17 pm: | |
Have played your game a few times this last hour or so Ken. I still think it's winnable and I'm back to believing the diamonds hold the key. If I could get the 7D from column 1 into play and get a 6D onto it, I think it would pay dividends. I can easily get it onto the 8D but it means burying the 6, and there appears to be no way back to get it.
We spent hours in the garden today again. I'll be back in amongst it again in a few hours from now. Hopefully by the time I'm finished with it it will be labour free next year onwards. (Famous last words?). |
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