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Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 1191
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 11:26 am: | |
Rearrange the following numbers into the correct order and you will have a winning number for Bucket. Happy hunting.
011112345 |
Ken Blackwell (Blackie9)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Blackie9
Post Number: 253
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 1:24 pm: | |
Id rather just keep trying....LOL |
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul
Post Number: 385
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 1:43 pm: | |
Hello Richard
My maths is not my strong point as I cannot work out if there are only 720 pssible combinations because of the 4 ones or are there really 362,880 possible games with these numbers
pondpaul |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 1193
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 1:55 pm: | |
Hi Paul, I couldn't be bothered working it out. Let's just says there are lots. Try 520114113 and then 1777500415.
It wouldn't surprise me if we can't come up with a good few winners for Bucket. British Canister?
No way!
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Ken Blackwell (Blackie9)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Blackie9
Post Number: 254
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 2:36 pm: | |
got 520114113 very nice |
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul
Post Number: 386
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 3:04 pm: | |
Hi
I to have got 520114113
how do you find them so quick?
I can see from various freecell sites that only 69 in the first 32000 are winnable with no free cells so this makes a percentage of winnable games 0.00215625
pondpaul |
Ken Blackwell (Blackie9)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Blackie9
Post Number: 255
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 3:18 pm: | |
Got the second also.... |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 1194
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 3:30 pm: | |
Hi Paul, Try your best British Canister numbers first. This yielded the first one. The second was just down to luck. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 1197
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 12:06 pm: | |
406234049 is another winner I found at random. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 1200
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 2:31 pm: | |
1236799104 is yet another winner. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 1201
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 3:15 pm: | |
1019094464 is my final contribution. All except one was found at random. I'm going back to my old favourites. I've kicked the bucket habit. |
Larry Dale (Lars)
Solitaire Player
Username: Lars
Post Number: 23
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 7:07 pm: | |
I will add # 673784960 to the solvable Bucket list. As for British Canister, my post in the Pretty Good Solitaire Questions Forum explains the long odds (one in a million) of a winner. So if anyone has the perseverence (or extreme luck) of finding a solution, I would applaud you.
Larry |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 1204
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 7:13 pm: | |
What would horrify me is that it's possible to find that elusive British Canister winner and fail to solve it and just keep looking.
In the next lot of new games,perhaps Thomas & Co could produce one with one or two freecells. That would be a challenge! |
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul
Post Number: 387
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 3:58 am: | |
Hi
Another Bucket number my Brother found
1653065343
pondpaul |
Larry Dale (Lars)
Solitaire Player
Username: Lars
Post Number: 24
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 7:30 am: | |
Pretty Good Solitaire allows cards to be played back from the foundations to the tableau columns (this is called worrying back). After solving Richard's Bucket # 1019094464 only with the help of worrying back, I will make a correction to my previous post. The one in one million solving rate for British Canister with worrying back would probably be improved. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 1236
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, November 22, 2007 - 4:38 pm: | |
1466191360 is another winnable Bucket. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 373
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, November 22, 2007 - 9:20 pm: | |
Speaaking of kicking the bucket, old man, where are you and Liz going on holiday next week? |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 1237
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Friday, November 23, 2007 - 4:06 am: | |
God hasn't let us know yet. It's not easy to rearrange the world's weather to facilitate us. I reminded that we haven't been over to the west for quite some time but we're not fussed where we land up. We wouldn't mind spending a day or two in Edinburgh either.
We'll consult the weather forecasts and head off in the most promising direction. We've already had the first snow showers where we live, so north or west could be a bit cold. I know of four pu-bs with log fires, so who cares? |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 1238
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Friday, November 23, 2007 - 5:12 pm: | |
870019648 is a more tricky Bucket winner. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 1239
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, November 24, 2007 - 6:36 pm: | |
Have put 2128301055 into the Bucket too. At least we can now play Bucket and hope to fluke a British Canister winner eventually. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 1240
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2007 - 10:34 am: | |
230713569 is possibly the most akward one yet.
Well worth a try. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 1241
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 26, 2007 - 3:21 pm: | |
We're off on holiday tomorrow. I'll leave you with 1828292223 as the hardest one I've solved. Who'll post a solution first?
Back in about a week. Missing you already. |
Mike Butler (Butler77)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Butler77
Post Number: 318
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 26, 2007 - 4:19 pm: | |
Have a good time Richard and Liz. |
Ken Blackwell (Blackie9)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Blackie9
Post Number: 264
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 10:05 am: | |
To hard to resist...have a nice trip!!! |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 1276
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, December 15, 2007 - 5:01 pm: | |
441160225
1225521152
2087923711
534868289
Some new winners. |
Larry Dale (Lars)
Advanced Solitaire Player
Username: Lars
Post Number: 71
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Monday, December 20, 2010 - 8:05 am: | |
Richard,
Have a go at # 38016 and # 68289 , but you need to play Freecell (with Bucket rules), so you get the same game. These were on the list of Bucket winnables using worryback as in PGS.
Good luck,
Larry |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6261
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Monday, December 20, 2010 - 8:32 am: | |
Thanks Larry. |
Larry Dale (Lars)
Advanced Solitaire Player
Username: Lars
Post Number: 72
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2010 - 8:11 am: | |
Richard,
As an example of what it takes to solve some of these Bucket-like games with worryback, try
#4206 (a lot of back and forth manuevering is needed). Solution attached if needed.
Larry |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6265
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2010 - 12:49 pm: | |
Clever! Well done Larry. |
CarolAnn (Sunlion7)
Intermediate Solitaire Player
Username: Sunlion7
Post Number: 43
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 6:14 pm: | |
I feel like the bucket got kicked! I have played 1921 games of Penguin without a loss. Just now my finger involuntarily flinched and took me to a new game before I'd finished the old one. Now I have 99.95% instead of 100%. Short of clearing all 1921 scores, is there any way I can go back and say "wait! I didn't lose that one!" and refigure that score? Sigh...I'd really rather not have to start all over... Thanks for listening.
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Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6294
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 6:43 pm: | |
Many of us have done similar things and have spoiled our stats. These days I trash mine deliberately. I simply don't need the stress. You KNOW you didn't lose the game in question. You still have 100%.
Besides, some of the stats you may have seen may not be genuine anyway. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1731
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 7:48 pm: | |
This has been brought up before, but I don't think Gregg or Thomas ever addressed it. Would it be possible in future editions of PGS to move the "New Game" button away from the "Restart" button so things like this don't happen???? |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1908
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2010 - 1:50 am: | |
Ken, in PGSME you can customize your toolbar to avoid such things. Here is for example my toolbar:
As you can see, i put the next game button far away and i deleted the new game button. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6295
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2010 - 4:04 am: | |
A HUGE improvement! |
CarolAnn (Sunlion7)
Intermediate Solitaire Player
Username: Sunlion7
Post Number: 44
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2010 - 5:28 am: | |
Thanks, everyone. I feel a little better. I have also wondered if some kind of reconfiguring would be a good idea. Larry's toolbar is great--why aren't all versions designed with that feature? |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1909
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2010 - 7:31 am: | |
Carol Ann, that's mine, not Larrys which is above posted. All i say is Apple. 
BTW, i have in Eight Off two games i have won later and have them as a loss in my stats. What else? Enjoy playing. You know, you have won it. |
CarolAnn (Sunlion7)
Intermediate Solitaire Player
Username: Sunlion7
Post Number: 45
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2010 - 8:26 am: | |
Sorry, Markus. Credit where credit is due... :-) |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6297
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2010 - 10:31 am: | |
An Apple for the teacher. |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1910
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2010 - 12:12 pm: | |
The credit should be by Gregg, who put the possibility of customizing the toolbar into the Mac Edition. Thank's Gregg!!!  |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 6300
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2010 - 12:16 pm: | |
Where did the suggestion originate? |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1911
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2010 - 2:08 pm: | |
I cannot tell. I am used on my Mac, that i can customize the toolbar. But where is the origin, i cannot say. Maybe Gregg knows the answer? |
Markus Reischl (Markus)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Markus
Post Number: 1912
Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2010 - 2:11 pm: | |
It is also possible in Microsoft Office to customize things, but not so often than on my Mac, where i can almost customize the toolbar in every program i have. |
Gregg Seelhoff (Seelhoff)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Seelhoff
Post Number: 517
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Friday, December 31, 2010 - 10:56 am: | |
>This has been brought up before, but I don't think Gregg or Thomas ever addressed it. Would it be possible in future editions of PGS to move the "New Game" button away from the "Restart" button so things like this don't happen????
We are planning a feature to allow "mulligans" in climb mode, to allow replacing an older score, and I will be investigating the possibility of allowing buttons to be rearranged on the toolbar in Windows (as in the Mac Edition). However, it may be a little while before these are implemented.
In the meantime, the best solution is to enable confirmation of starting new games. In Pretty Good Solitaire [Windows], click the 'Options' button on the toolbar (at the game list), select 'Preferences' and tick the 'Confirm new games and restarts' checkbox. On Most Popular Solitaire and Goodsol Solitaire 101, click the 'Options' button and (on the 'General' tab) tick the 'Confirm when starting new games' checkbox. (Note that there is slightly finer control on these games, with separate confirmation for restarts, because I mindlessly confirmed a new game without thinking, ruining my stats in the same way.  )
Also, the last time this was discussed, we decided not to change the (default) position of toolbar buttons because, basically, Pretty Good Solitaire has 15 years of history and many players expect the toolbar buttons where they are. (When an early version of MPS had a different ordering of toolbar buttons, we actually got complaints.)
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Gregg Seelhoff (Seelhoff)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Seelhoff
Post Number: 518
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Friday, December 31, 2010 - 11:18 am: | |
>The credit should be by Gregg, who put the possibility of customizing the toolbar into the Mac Edition. Thank's Gregg!!!
You are welcome, although I can only take credit for the implementation...
>>Where did the suggestion originate?
>I cannot tell. I am used on my Mac, that i can customize the toolbar. But where is the origin, i cannot say. Maybe Gregg knows the answer?
The standard toolbar on Mac OS X has the option of custom configuration built-in, which is why it is so common for Mac software. Since the first Mac Edition was developed after the first debate about the position of toolbar buttons, I chose to do what was necessary to allow for customization. On the Windows side, there is no customization feature on the standard toolbar, and (apparently) no common interface, so I need to figure out the best way to implement it there. (That, and find the time. )
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Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 1734
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Friday, December 31, 2010 - 12:11 pm: | |
Plus you have to watch MSU kick Alabama's a** tomorrow. We did our part, Gregg, by beating Missouri. Let's keep the Big 10 streak going! |
Gregg Seelhoff (Seelhoff)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Seelhoff
Post Number: 519
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Friday, December 31, 2010 - 4:37 pm: | |
>Plus you have to watch MSU kick Alabama's a** tomorrow.
You know it!
(Since Saban was head coach at MSU but defected for more money, we have extra incentive to pummel the traitor.)
>We did our part, Gregg, by beating Missouri. Let's keep the Big 10 streak going!
Congratulations on the victory. The Sun Belt Conference (who?) is the only other undefeated conference in bowl games, so far, but they only have one more game. The Big 10 is playing in 5 of the 6 bowl games tomorrow (plus there is still Ohio State to play later). I will be cheering for all of them, but, honestly, only watching THE game.
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