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pammie
Unregistered guest
Posted on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 10:27 am:   

I have played this 446 times. I have lost 446 times.

Has anyone out there ever won a Plot game and if so how did you do it?
Thomas Warfield (Support)
Moderator
Username: Support

Post Number: 35
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 8:11 pm:   

>Has anyone out there ever won a Plot game and if so how did you do it?

I've never won it and from the statistics at <http://www.goodsol.com/stats/games/the_plot.html>, not too many people ever have. It's one of the hardest games to win in Pretty Good Solitaire. It's a nasty game.
Sabine Mentrup (Sabine)
New Solitaire Player
Username: Sabine

Post Number: 2
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 8:11 am:   

I had never played it before (perhaps one time by random selection), but yesterday evening (after reading the question) I tried and played until 11 pm. Tom, you should change the description in the help menu: "Skill/Luck balanced" is not sooo right, "Mostly luck" would be better....
Pamela McGowan (Pammie)
New Solitaire Player
Username: Pammie

Post Number: 1
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 11:50 am:   

Odd thing is I still enjoy trying it. Some others I leave alone if I can't win but this I have to keep on trying.
Anonymous
Posted on Friday, January 24, 2003 - 2:33 pm:   

I won it once but after getting a new computer and reinstalling PGS my statistics disappeared. Is there anyway we can save our statistics? I wa so proud of my win and now I can't brag anymore :-)

Also, agree about the luck/skill balance. I would say it's 99% luck because of the way the cards are dealt out...like Triangle and some other games.
Thomas Warfield (Support)
Moderator
Username: Support

Post Number: 69
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 5:16 pm:   

>Is there anyway we can save our statistics?

Yes, if you are transferring your statistics to a new computer, you can do it as described at <http://www.goodsol.com/support/data.html>.

Aeolius
Unregistered guest
Posted on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 11:30 am:   

One of the things I find myself wanting (and was disappointed that I couldn't find here) was a list of game numbers that are considered winnable.

Tom, any way that this information could be extracted automatically when a player downloads his/her statistics to the web? Could the winning game numbers could be extracted and listed somewhere? Just curious. I'm well over 100 games of The Plot, and I'm at the point where I'd like to have a number that I can play and know that it's winnable.

Thanks!
Thomas Warfield (Support)
Moderator
Username: Support

Post Number: 97
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Saturday, February 08, 2003 - 2:44 pm:   

>Tom, any way that this information could be extracted automatically when a player downloads his/her statistics to the web?

It would be very difficult, because there would just be a huge amount of data for all the games and it would make the statistics submissions huge. It would be rather impractical to include game numbers in the statistics submissions.

The best thing is for someone who has managed to win a game of the The Plot to post a winning game number.

On the subject of The Plot, I've just created a new game for the upcoming new version of Pretty Good Solitaire that is like The Plot but easier to win. It's still very hard to win, but at least it gives you a fighting chance sometimes.
Brita von Bartenwerffer (Brita)
New Solitaire Player
Username: Brita

Post Number: 8
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Sunday, February 09, 2003 - 2:55 am:   

> Tom, any way that this information could be extracted automatically when a player downloads his/her statistics to the web?

Well, I'm not Tom, but I can see another difficulty here. I think it was mentioned earlier in this forum that a number of uploaded statistics may have been manipulated before uploading. I know how to do it ever since I had to consolidate data from my old PC and the new one, although I don't do it... (Don't worry, Tom, I won't tell anyone how to do it because it is cheating!)

So even if Tom could somehow extract those game numbers we might find games listed as winnable which are not.
Barbara
Unregistered guest
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2003 - 9:04 am:   

The Plot can be won on game number 1115340800. how do i become a registered person on this?
Thomas Warfield (Support)
Moderator
Username: Support

Post Number: 230
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2003 - 5:17 pm:   

>how do i become a registered person on this?

If you mean how to get on the scores list on the website, you can submit your scores at <http://www.goodsol.com/stats/submit.html>.
Barbara Germann (Barb)
New Solitaire Player
Username: Barb

Post Number: 1
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 10:35 pm:   

Game # 1429156992 is winnable.
Frances Cammisa (Yankeegal)
Junior Solitaire Player
Username: Yankeegal

Post Number: 6
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 6:20 am:   

I've played The Plot many, many times (I foolishly deleted my stats when I got so mad at it) and have never won. I tried game #1429156992 as suggested by another player and didn't win with that one either.
Is this game winnable at all?
Peg Mueller (Tzrnpeg)
Intermediate Solitaire Player
Username: Tzrnpeg

Post Number: 32
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 7:23 am:   

Game #1115340800 is also winnable.

Peg
Frances Cammisa (Yankeegal)
Junior Solitaire Player
Username: Yankeegal

Post Number: 7
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 10:42 am:   

I will try that one and see what happens. It is as frustrating as 13 Packs!
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Advanced Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul

Post Number: 71
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 11:21 am:   

HI
I have also won 1115340800 but it took a lot of goes to get there
13 packs try 1000094 also needs several tries but is winnable and remember to read the rules for the end of the game were you can put cards on their numbers when the pack has been exhausted and is the only way to win
bye Paul
Frances Cammisa (Yankeegal)
Junior Solitaire Player
Username: Yankeegal

Post Number: 8
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 1:03 pm:   

Hi Paul--I had better go back and re-read the rules for 13 Packs--I have never done that at the end---
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Advanced Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul

Post Number: 72
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 1:25 pm:   

Hi Francis
if you are still stuck on The Plot game 1115340800 i have played again and written the moves down so i can send them to anyone who emails me to pondpaul@hotmail.com
couple of things to help you you need to get the suit of diamonds done quickly so keep spaces for the diamonds and there is a very troublesome Qs in the top left pile so a space must be filled with the Jack of spades to help you later on when the foundations are available
bye Paul
Frances Cammisa (Yankeegal)
Junior Solitaire Player
Username: Yankeegal

Post Number: 9
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 1:56 pm:   

Paul, I admit to being more than a little puzzled. I tried "filling" in the spaces with the proper rank of card and it does not work--
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Advanced Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul

Post Number: 73
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 2:23 pm:   

hI AGAIN
i think it will only work if the is only one card left of the value ie if you have a 9 space empty and have a nine to put into it there must be no other nines that is not on the foundations even if they are hidden
also I found that as soon as you get rid of all the cards of a value except one you can put this on its number even if you have some deals still do
I must admit it took a lot of goes to get this right and you have probably realised it is difficult to get the Black foundations down very far unless you are careful
it was a wonderful feeling when it comes out though
hope this makes sense
Paul
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Advanced Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul

Post Number: 74
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 4:04 pm:   

hi Frances
worked 13 packs out so if you want to email me If you get stuck i can send you or anybody the winning moves to 13 packs game 1000094
pondpaul@hotmail.com
working out the moves for the plot and 13 packs means it must be bedtime here in the uk
bye Paul
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Intermediate Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 40
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 5:18 pm:   

THE PLOT:- Winning game.
text/plainDevious plot
The Plot_501240097.pgs (3.6 k)
christel de vliegere (Seeke)
New Solitaire Player
Username: Seeke

Post Number: 1
Registered: 1-2007
Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 2:23 pm:   

Hi!
Another winnable game is 2066017024; I have played The Plot 847 times, and won only once! I am trying to get to a 1% win status, but it is very hard :D The other winnables mentioned here might help. I am certainly going to try them out! It is a fun & challenging, but very addictive (!), game.
In the latest release of PGS, there is an easier version, called the Family Plot. I am proud to say my win/lose rate there is 50 %.
With greetings from a newly registered user from Belgium.
Seeke
Frances Cammisa (Yankeegal)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Yankeegal

Post Number: 161
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 3:47 pm:   

Hi Christel--I have won it only once and that was because I got the moves from Paul--I think that's sort of cheating, though--

Have you tried 13 Packs? I played that over 2000 times and won it only once---and never played it again---
Audrey G Schnell (Paxinc)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Paxinc

Post Number: 178
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 6:05 pm:   

Richard: I can't get your Plot #501240097 to open. I save it to PGS but it doesn't show up in "open game", in PGS with the Plot open. I can't figure out how to get it into my browser, which is Thunderbird either, as one writer advised. Audrey
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 299
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 6:31 pm:   

Hi Audrey,
This method is SO EASY you could get a lobotomy and still manage it.
Left click on the the Plot game three messages above this. Then you will get it to open in a new window. In the address bar for that new window
you will see ../18/The_Plot_ 501240097-2471.txt
Highlight all of this and click on "copy".
STAY ONLINE.
Now go back into PGS and open up The Plot.
In top left of its screen click where it says "game".
In the drop down menu that appears you click on "open game".
Your cursor will be flashing in the empty box where it says "file name".
Right click in this box and paste the file name into it.
Click on "open".
If you can't crack this we're gonna have to take you to the vet.
It's way past midnight here, so I'm off to bed now to say some prayers for you. With any luck they will have been answered by morning.
Was it you who put the Aud in Audrey?
Richard.
Audrey G Schnell (Paxinc)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Paxinc

Post Number: 179
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 8:52 pm:   

Thanks, Richard. I'm not a bitch (canine) you know! Those instructions are great. Bye Audrey
Audrey G Schnell (Paxinc)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Paxinc

Post Number: 180
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 8:53 pm:   

By the way; what is an Aud?
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 300
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 3:18 am:   

Hi Audrey,
And some people think that miracles no longer happen! You've actually managed it! We're not going to have to have you put to sleep after all. Halleluyah.
Surprised you asked the question "what is an Aud?". Think phonetically.
I don't think this will be bridge too far either, but on your keyboard there is a big six sided key. When you tap on it your cursor moves into the next line.Try this the next time you think that the scroll bar is not working.
Be good,
Richard.
christel de vliegere (Seeke)
New Solitaire Player
Username: Seeke

Post Number: 2
Registered: 1-2007
Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 2:22 pm:   

Hi Frances,
I had not yet tried 13 Packs (there are soo many games to choose from :D); it is really hard, I can see that after 10 tries. I think it is mostly luck. I don't know if I will ever get to 2000 tries, like you did. Do you have the number of the game that you won?

Maybe not the place to ask here, but as a newly registered player: how do you become a Master, Intermediate and such Solitaire Player? Is it by posting quest results on the web?
I have been playing PGS for quite a while now. I did have an older version, one with 300something games. Couldn't resist upgrading to 600+ games, even if I will never have the time to play them all :D
Christel
Frances Cammisa (Yankeegal)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Yankeegal

Post Number: 162
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Friday, January 26, 2007 - 4:28 am:   

Hi Christel--I wish I did have the number of the winning game but my computer crashed last year and I lost everything--all my records of games and numbers and all that--I'm goign to keep at 13 Packs, though--I'll win it again eventually---

I don't know how you becme a Master or Intermediate--it may have something to do with the posts you put up--

Bye--
Maria (aka Frances)
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 306
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Friday, January 26, 2007 - 5:30 am:   

Hi Christel,
Thirteen Packs can be won with # 1347528320.
Your PGS status is decided by the amount of posts you have to the forum. It has nothing to do with how good a player you are.
Richard.
Frances Cammisa (Yankeegal)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Yankeegal

Post Number: 163
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Friday, January 26, 2007 - 5:51 am:   

Thank you, Richard--that even sounds like the winning number I had for 13 Packs-- once -- BTC---

Maria
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 308
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Friday, January 26, 2007 - 11:28 am:   

Hi Maria,
I've a job remembering phone numbers far less 10 digit game numbers.
Richard.
christel de vliegere (Seeke)
New Solitaire Player
Username: Seeke

Post Number: 3
Registered: 1-2007
Posted on Friday, January 26, 2007 - 11:47 am:   

Thanks Richard, I am going to try that game right now. Will let you know!
Thanks also for the info about how to advance the PGS status. I will have to keep posting then, but that won't be a problem either I think :D

Frances, if I ever win a 13 Packs game, I will post the number! Perhaps we can start a 13 Packs section (right term in English?) on the "Is it winnable" forum.
Greetings from bitterly cold Belgium
Christel
Frances Cammisa (Yankeegal)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Yankeegal

Post Number: 164
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Friday, January 26, 2007 - 1:21 pm:   

you would hate our system over here, then---
Frances Cammisa (Yankeegal)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Yankeegal

Post Number: 165
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Friday, January 26, 2007 - 1:24 pm:   

A section or even an on-line club on winning the "unwinnable" games would be fun, Christel--I'd enjoy that--

And don't knock 'bitterly cold Belgium"--I have blast-furnace heat for 8 months out of the year and it's no picnic.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 310
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Friday, January 26, 2007 - 2:31 pm:   

Hi Maria,
We already have an online club and a section where you can ask for assistance in winning particular games. You can even start you own one if you want. You click where it says "Topics" and then where it says "start new thread". I think it would be extremely difficult to improve on this particularly as it's completely free!
Re your hot weather, I agree with you. There's a lot to be said for cooler climates. You just wear some more clothes. If it's too hot there's a limit to how much it's possible to take off. We get quite a lot of rain here and I don't mind it in the least. Where in the States are you?
Richard.
Frances Cammisa (Yankeegal)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Yankeegal

Post Number: 166
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Friday, January 26, 2007 - 7:39 pm:   

Hi Richard--I didn't about the "online club"--I will have to check it out.

I live in Arizona--the desert Southwest--it's a blast furnace from April (sometimes late March) until November. And I am with you--you can always get warm but there are limits to what you can do to keep cool---I want to go back to my home base----
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 312
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 4:00 am:   

Hi Maria,
THIS is our "online club". It's for members only, and we're all online. If you can't get help here re PGS then I don't know where you'd get better advice.
ARIZONA! Now we are talking HOT! That would definately kill me. On the occasions it gets into the high seventies here, I feel very uncomfortable, but conversely when the temperature is down in single figures I'm perfectly at home. Sometimes it falls way below zero but it's not difficult to cope with that either. Sorry, I wouldn't trade with you.
Richard, the cool dude.
Frances Cammisa (Yankeegal)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Yankeegal

Post Number: 167
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 5:54 am:   

Well, good, then I am a member already--or am I? At any rate, I have found lots of hints and advice on here and I am grateful--PGS is a big part of my day--

No, you would not want to trade with me--I hate heat, I've never done well in hot weather so why am I here, right? It's a long story--I am with you, Richard--I love single digit temperatures and cold air---and snow--lots of it!
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 315
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 8:35 am:   

Hi Maria,
You presence here proves your membership to out "club", but until you learn how to download and open games that others have uploaded you're missing out on a lot. You should ambush some neighbourhood kids and beat them up unless they show you how. Seriously. They're far more genned up than us old wrinklies.
You'd love Scotland.It's normally cool and wet, so that everything is lush green. Few places on the planet can have more fresh water than us. There are rivers and lochs (lakes)in abundance.
You should quit Arizona and find a more pleasant climate. It's never too late.
Richard.
Frances Cammisa (Yankeegal)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Yankeegal

Post Number: 168
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 4:49 am:   

Hi Richard--thank you for the kind words--at this point, any place anywhere would be more welcome than here--and I know I would love Scotland--that sort of climate appeals to me--of course, I also love snow--I think it's in my genes--my father was born not far from where the Olympics were played last year--in Piemonte, Italy--he used to tell me about snow from October to May--now that I would love!!! Right now, though the East Coast of the USA would be fine for me--it's where I was born and raised---

As to uploading the games to see the winners, I really do like the challenge of the "impossible" games--I like to know if they are indeed "winnable", though.

And I tend to leave the neighborhood small fry alone--LOL!

Have a good day--
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 322
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 5:15 am:   

Hi Maria,
Thanks for the info. Not too sure about the snow though. My partner Liz and I went on a short holiday very recently and passed both of our ski centres en route home. Just a dusting of snow on the very highest peaks. Two days later they were advertising dozens of runs complete. We have too many very steep and narrow roads in many parts of Scotland that become impassable when there is snow. Many of our favourite routes are only a foot or so wider than the car, with passing places every so often. If we could prohibit snow from falling on roads, then I'd appreciate it much more.
Re impossible games, I can prove that all but six of them ARE possible, but sometimes it takes thousands of attempts to find a winner for very difficult games like Diavalo. You always get the nagging feeling that many of the numbers that you failed to solve, may actually have been winnable and that perhaps you've thrown in the towel too readily. But that's PGS, and I love it, and I'd be totally lost without it. If it ever stops being FUN then I'll move on.
Richard.
Ken Blackwell (Blackie9)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Blackie9

Post Number: 161
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 10:46 am:   

I think Diavalo is one of the easiest of the hard games and the most fun. Robert and british Canister are the ones I find a bit silly.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 329
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 11:17 am:   

Hi Sir Ken,
Nice to know you're still visiting the forum. Perhaps Diavalo wasn't the best example but it was the first one the popped into my mind.
If you want a laugh, check out the leader of the online stats for Robert. I've all but given up on British Canister too. It's a farce. Plus I've given myself a holiday from Forwards and Backwards. Thought 30,000 attempts was sufficient punishment.
Richard.
Frances Cammisa (Yankeegal)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Yankeegal

Post Number: 169
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 2:22 pm:   

Hi RIchard---thank you for the weather report on Sotland--somehow I never associated a lot of snow with the British Isles anyway--But it's nothing to worry about--I will never get there or even back to Piemonte--

I love the "challenges"---and, as you said, if it ever stops being fun, then it's time to quit---I think we have a lot of years ahead of us with PGS--

Take care--
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken

Post Number: 297
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 1:13 am:   

Richard, did you ever win the number that Christel posted back in January? #2066017024
So far, my best score is 50.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken

Post Number: 298
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 1:35 am:   

Got it! (And I have it saved in case anybody wants it).
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 976
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 7:18 am:   

Hi Ken, I don't even recall seeing it, so the answer is no. I've plenty to do just now so I'm not going to bother meantime. If she wanted help with it, you should post it.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 983
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 6:08 pm:   

I've just tried the Plot game you mentioned. Pretty good but I was getting worried close to the end with the JD still missing. You should still post it as they're pretty rare. Congrats for getting so close to the top of it's table.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken

Post Number: 301
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 7:27 am:   

By popular demand

text/plainAgar?
The Plot_2066017024.thickens.pgs (3.4 k)


Too clever?
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 984
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 7:34 am:   

Hi Ken,
Nope. I said I'd solved it. For comparison if you want.
application/octet-stream
The Plot_2066017024.pgs (3.7 k)


Try this one.150907825 I was doing quite well with it, but I think I've found a glich. Will get back to you soon.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 985
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 7:37 am:   

Hi Ken,
Nope. I said I'd solved it. For comparison if you want.

3.6 K
The Plot_2066017024.pgs
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Try this one.150907825 I was doing quite well with it, but I think I've found a glich. Will get back to you soon.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 986
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 7:39 am:   

Something else is misbehaving too!
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 987
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 7:44 am:   

Aplogies. I totally missed the brilliant word play.
There is definitely a glitch in 150907825 (so probably in more too). See if you can win it. I;m going to have another go making use of my discovery. All's fair in love and PGS.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 989
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 9:13 am:   

Back again. Going on holiday on Monday so you'll get some peace then. I've posted the glitch position in General Discussion so you can DL it from there and mess about with it. My best is score 58 waste 15, but I'm sure there's mileage in it yet. Possibly try an alternative nine? I know you play a straight game but is it possible that someone else discovered this method and kept mum? Get my drift?
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken

Post Number: 302
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 10:12 am:   

My best score is 59 so far, and at the risk of earning your wrath and scorn, I don't see the glitch. The link you posted doesn't work, and I don't see any glitch when I play it on my own.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken

Post Number: 303
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 10:17 am:   

BTW, are you going to post your 1000th post before you leave, or you going to think about it while you're on holiday?
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 990
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 11:18 am:   

You're gonna have to water down your hooch. Didn't you notice that there are hearts being accepted onto the foundations long before the initial spades are completed? It is also possible to get it to accept a 9D or a 9C with the spades incomplete. It hasn't been a great deal of help as 61 is the best I've done ..... yet! It tends to get a bit confusing and I can't concentrate on getting all my components in place to get much further.
Incicentally the glitch seems to depend on you working on the undo button. It won't put an extra nine on if you're going forwards.
Why should my 1000th post be anything out of the ordinary? Are you anticipating a mention?

Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 991
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 11:22 am:   

I just tried my link and it's working OK with me.
Are you just trying to get me to keep posting until I hit you know what?
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken

Post Number: 304
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 11:39 am:   

Ok, I'll try it again. As to your 1000th post, if memory serves me correctly, your 500th post was a limerick that was quite witty, so you're the one who set the bar, and btw, there's nothing I hate more than watery hooch!
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken

Post Number: 305
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 11:48 am:   

Ok, now's it working (or not working, as the case may be!)
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken

Post Number: 306
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 12:10 pm:   

Richard, here's the win from the glitch forward. I'm still trying to see if I can win it without the glitch.
text/plainDishonorable Mention
The Plot_150907825.a_shady_win.pgs (3.9 k)
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 992
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 12:21 pm:   

Well done Ken! I suspected it would be winnable.
It did make me wonder if your table percentage couldn't be drastically improved by this strategy.
Let's try it on a few more. Keep me posted.
Mike Butler (Butler77)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Butler77

Post Number: 191
Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 4:11 pm:   

You guys got me on this one. I can't even understand the rules. I admit I still may be under the affects of some rugds. But I make a play then I can't add on to the pile I started. I think I will take a nap now. Mispelled word on purpose.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 993
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 4:24 pm:   

Hi Mike, If your initial foundation pile is 10C for example, you may have 10H in your deal too.
You cannot play a 9H onto the 10H, or even play it onto a JH. Everything else just follows normal rules, with single cards only being moved between piles. Cards from the Reserve can only be played to the foundations.
Hope you're back to normal soon. Keep taking the talbest.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 997
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 6:14 pm:   

Hi Ken, Here is another glitch position game for you to try. It's also possible to put the 8S on the foundations rather than the 8H I've accepted this time.
application/octet-streamForgive them who conspire
The Plot_1991694079 another glitch for Ken.pgs (1.2 k)
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken

Post Number: 307
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 11:33 pm:   

Hi Richard, Not having much luck. Those two 2 of hearts right in a row in the reserve is a killer. Best score so far is 39 with waste 26. So where are you going on holiday THIS time?
Mike Butler (Butler77)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Butler77

Post Number: 193
Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 12:44 am:   

I was wondering where he was going too. East and South Berwick perhaps.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 998
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 2:55 am:   

Hi Guys, I can't recall what scores I got with 1991694079 Ken. Nothing of any note anyway. I did shift one of the twos but I believe that the ace for the other one is buried in the reserve.
As the UK is having the worst summer imaginable, with endless rain and widespread flooding, my target areas have been restricted. Several places in Perthshire, the Kingdom of Fife, and East Lothian are pencilled in, but we'll be trying to dodge the rain, so it's subject to change. Summer has failed to show up this year. It probably about 10 or 12 degrees outside today.
We're going to CraigMILLAR come hell or high water. Got to be some mileage for irritation there, or perhaps not; it's supposed to be quite nice! Strike one!
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 1002
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 4:38 am:   

Hi Ken, Check my last post in General Discussion and you'll know how to create your own gliches. I'm attaching what could be a very interesting one I've just found. If you save it at this position, you can always re-open it and select yet another suit to try. Have fun.
application/octet-streamForgive them who trespass
The Plot_910915841 glitch from here.pgs (0.3 k)
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 1003
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 4:52 am:   

Sorry. Must have moved a card before I saved it. This one works.
application/octet-streamThou shalt not covet your neighbour's ass
The Plot_910915841 glitch from here.pgs (0.2 k)
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 1004
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 5:06 am:   

I'm gonna need a holiday after this. It's messing with me. Let's see if it can scupper these.
application/octet-streamRemember THIS Sabbath day.
The Plot_910915841 it's being akward.pgs (0.1 k)
application/octet-stream
The Plot_910915841 undo from here.pgs (1.6 k)
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 1005
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 6:48 am:   

Try 513520353. It is glitchable, but may even be winnable without cheating.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 1006
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 7:29 am:   

And finally.....
application/octet-streamThis guy foxes
The Plot_ One Won_513520353.pgs (3.6 k)
Ken Blackwell (Blackie9)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Blackie9

Post Number: 224
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 1:25 pm:   

#1429156992 is also fun fun fun.....
Ken Blackwell (Blackie9)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Blackie9

Post Number: 225
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 1:31 pm:   

well that one was fun also as it was mentioned eariler....ment #652159040 as another winnable
Ken Blackwell (Blackie9)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Blackie9

Post Number: 245
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 11:19 am:   

a fairly easy one #827528000
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken

Post Number: 330
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 12:13 am:   

You're right, Ken, that was an easy one. Any others?
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 1132
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 4:42 am:   

To K2, Did you try Ken's other one just above? 652159040. I had a great time messing with it, and even managed a super-gliche. I backpeddled until most of the first suit went back into the stock and then got TWO additional base cards onto the foundations. It's cheating, I know, but I'm just doing it for a laugh, and I've stopped posing my scores anyway.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken

Post Number: 331
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 9:07 am:   

I had won that one straight up when he had posted it back in July.
Ken Blackwell (Blackie9)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Blackie9

Post Number: 246
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 11:03 am:   

Have 7 wins. If you dont have that many or more.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 1134
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 1:31 pm:   

247262385 looks winnable guys, but I've just run through it once.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken

Post Number: 332
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 12:42 am:   

Richard, it certainly looked promising, but the K of Diamonds is on top of the 5 of Diamonds in the reserve, and since diamonds is the suit you need to complete before even being be able to access the reserve, it ain't happening. On an unrelated note, it's been a couple of weeks, Richard, aren't you and Liz due for a holiday?
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 1135
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 3:52 am:   

Sorry re that game number. I'll keep looking. Yes it's been simply AGES since we were on holiday. Ta for the reminder. Liz has more booked for late November.Mother is still in the hospital though. They're not going to discharge her until they've put some handrails and other nonsense up in her house. Said this would be asap but could be 2-3 weeks yet. Wouldn't care if any of their lame ideas would have prevented her accident in the first place. Beaurocratic nonsense. I fell out with them yesterday, and I'm loaded for bear today too.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 1136
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 4:28 am:   

314831745 and 59178117 appear to have potential in The Plot. Haven't got much time to spend on them to find out for sure. Good luck.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken

Post Number: 333
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 7:56 am:   

Richard, you need to vet your #'s a little better. The first # it took some manuevering to realize that the 7 of diamonds was buried in the reserve irretrievable, but the second #, if you had gone the deal even once, you would have realized that the highest score attainable is a whopping 2!
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 1137
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 10:41 am:   

Sorry Ken, I must have given you the wrong number because I certainly had reasonable scores with both the numbers I meant to post. I've cleared my stats so I've no way of checking.

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