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paul slade (Slade)
New Solitaire Player
Username: Slade

Post Number: 1
Registered: 3-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 3:28 am:   

"Removing queens will attract lobsters, although dealing in fans will remove the King. Prince Andrew favours rows of seven, and there's a Bonanza for your computer. Why would Bunthorne have fancied this?"

The above question is taken from a BBC Radio 4 programme called Round Britain Quiz. Bunthorne appeared in the Gilbert & Sullivan operetta "Patience", which is also the British name for solitaire.

I am convinced the remaining four elements of the question each represent a variety of solitaire/patience, but have not been able to identify the particular games involved. Can anyone help?

Many thanks.
Gregg Seelhoff (Seelhoff)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Seelhoff

Post Number: 162
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 11:11 am:   


I am not any good at this type of riddle, but that will not stop me from guessing. :-)

>Removing queens will attract lobsters

This one has me stumped. At first I thought that it may be a reference to Raw Prawn, but that game is unique to Pretty Good Solitaire, I believe. What attracts lobsters?

>dealing in fans will remove the King

This could be any fan game, as they all play on foundations from Ace to King. I suspect that the game would be La Belle Lucie (a reference to Dicken's A Tale of Two Cities, I imagine).

>Prince Andrew favours rows of seven

There are lots of games with a royal theme, but I cannot figure out exactly which one is referenced here. By name, Duchess or Royal Marriage would be good candidates, but neither has rows of seven. King Albert has a row of seven cards, but that is a pretty weak connection.

>there's a Bonanza for your computer

I think that this is simply Klondike, which is the "Solitaire" that ships with Windows.

I doubt that helps much, but please let us all know when you have the (real) solution.
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul

Post Number: 231
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 12:14 pm:   

no luck with me
but this link will take you to the bbc site and you can listen to the programme again and get the answer next week
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 2:11 pm:   

Hi Paul--OK, I give up--can you send me the moves for "Reserves?" I have tried and tried to win it with Ken's winning number and it's just no go at all--

Thanks--e-mail is brucam@citlink.net.

paul slade (Slade)
New Solitaire Player
Username: Slade

Post Number: 2
Registered: 3-2005
Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 8:29 am:   

Thanks very much to Gregg Seelhoff for trying to help with the RBQ puzzle above. I thought he (and others) might like to know the solution.

They were all varieties of solitaire:

Queens/Lobsters referred to Quadrille, as in Alice In Wonderland's Lobster Quadrille.

Fans/Kings led to Cromwell (who removed a king, of course)

Price Andrew/Rows of Seven was supposed to make us think of Golf. Prince Andrew, it seems, is patron of St Andrews Golf Club - a rather tenuous link if you ask me.

Bonanza/Computer was Klondike and its omnipresence on Windows.

Thanks again for your help. Aren't these questions infuriating?

Gregg Seelhoff (Seelhoff)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Seelhoff

Post Number: 166
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 3:56 pm:   

Thanks for posting the solution!

As far as the Golf clue is concerned, it was especially tenuous for me, as (being in the US) I hardly even know who Prince Andrew is, much less the clubs to which he happens to belong. :-)

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