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  • Member, Beta Tester
    It's an extremely complicated legal process Mike. All 28 nations in the EU have signed and agreed to hundreds of laws and regulations they would all adhere to. These include complex laws regarding removing your country from this union. Would Mr.Trump kindly explain to his audience how it is possible to sue yourself? He more or less told the world that Theresa May is an idiot and that he would have had the matter wrapped up virtually overnight. You will never hear her insulting him by reminding the world that he managed to bankrupt his casinos in Atlantic City and siphoned off millions of dollars in the process. He borrowed the money to finance this business empire and didn't pay it back becoming rich in the process. Doesn't sound very ethical to me.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/12/nyregion/donald-trump-atlantic-city.html
    He should stick to sorting out America's problems and have the courtesy to allow other national leaders to deal with their own internal affairs. You are familiar with the concept of "Russian interference". "American interference" doesn't sit too comfortably either.
  • Member, Beta Tester
    People here in my complex sue themselves through the management company quite often. Repairs that possibly could be covered by the association are not. But some people have sued and won.
    I listened to Trump's Brexit statement. He didn't call May an idiot. He just said that if she would have followed his advice. Things would have gone differently. Big ego at work.
    Atlantic City was going broke. And Trump bailed. He bought and sold real estate. He built a good number of buildings and refurbished others. He employed a lot of people. Some business people manipulate the system. He admitted it. And American interference in other countries has been going on for a long time. The Russians and the Chinese seem to be better at it right now.
  • Member, Beta Tester
    Nobody interfered more than the British in their heyday Mike. There were fortunes made both legally and illegally. Much of the money made legally was not made ethically though. Slavery was legal and you don't have to dig very deep to find that prominent people in both of our countries were involved in that sordid enterprise. Suffice is to say that Trump is not the only one who got rich by iffy means. Show me a Russian billionaire whose business affairs would withstand close scrutiny. Also, if reporters asked Trump a couple of questions about Brexit it would be obvious that he really has no grasp of what it entails. He makes statements like this recent one all of the time. He knows that they are sometimes very inaccurate but as long as his core voters believe him he is happy to keep trucking them out. Brexit is governed by European Law as is the UK. It can only be conducted within the paraneters that the law. Teresa May is just the figurehead. Hundreds of the best legal brains in Europe have been discussing it practically every day for two years. Trump's presidency began in January 2017, OVER two years ago. If he is as smart as he thinks he is his wall should have been completed long ago. :-j
  • Member, Beta Tester
    If it wasn't for those damn Democrats (and now 12 non-sychophant Republicans), it would've been !
  • Member, Beta Tester
    There is a crisis on our southern border. Those who say differently are not looking at the facts. They have their own agenda. They lost the election. Boo Hoo! Their President. Mr Obama said there was a problem. But nobody wanted to fix it. So Trump made it part of his campaign. Had the Democrats tried to make any deal at all. We would not have had a government shutdown. Or a national emergency. Nor would we be facing another shutdown. The party of NO gets what they want. The twelve republicans are doing what they should. So far. No extra money has been spent on the wall. The republicans who voted no are just protecting their positions for reelection.But that may fail. Other executive orders have had to be financed. So why is this one different?
    As far as Brexit. I get the feeling it's a dead duck. No matter what the voters say. No politician wants to really commit to a plan. If something goes wrong. They will be out of a job.
  • edited March 2019 Member, Beta Tester
    Mike, I totally agree that you have a crisis on your southern border. It is likely to get much worse. I rubbished Trump's idea of a wall a long time ago but I changed my opinion a few months ago after watching a TV documentary here regarding the "invasion". You NEED a wall. Without one you are going to be over-run by millions, yes millions, of people looking for a better life. Many will be criminals. Trump was elected by people who wanted a wall built. The Democrats have no right to try and stop him. Similarly, we voted to leave the EU and the MP's from ALL parties who are trying to stop Brexit have no right to try and prevent it. Our situation is far more complicated than yours. There is only one way we can leave legally, otherwise we'd have to break European laws that we signed up to and agreed on. They would retaliate of course. An example could be to prevent our aircraft flying across Europe. A more likely scenario is that they could take us to court and hammer us with a massive fine as we couldn't possibly win the case. Donald Trump just plays to the gallery. He doesn't give a damn if he talks a load of tripe on the matter because most Americans appear to think that leaving the EU is a simple as cancelling their membership of golf club. Most Brits used to think that too but now we've been rudelty awakened. We were lied to. Politicians are liars. Simple fact.
    You may have heard about the "Back stop" that our MP's are up in arms about. If we sign the treaty to leave the EU we would have to accdept that part of it too and we would NEVER be able to get out of it withour their permission. We would become a vassel state. I do hope we've heard the last comment about Brexit from Mr.T. He's hardly an authority on the subject.
  • Member, Beta Tester
    Mike, none of the 12 Republicans who voted no (except for Susan Collins of Maine) are up for re-election next year. I assume the reason they voted no is because they don't want to set a dangerous precedent. When the Democrats get back in power, the 12Republicans don't want President Joe Biden declaring the Green New Deal a constitutional crisis and pushing that through. Hey, what's good for the goose...
  • Member, Beta Tester
    Democracy is dying in both of our countries Ken. Everybody is too busy playing politics to be bothered running the country to the benefit of the population who pay their highly inflated wages. Now about my proposed cull. Should we start with volunteers first, those willing to sacrifice themselves for the good of the nation? =)) =)) =)) Like that would ever happen. My suggested motto for politicians everywhere is, "After me, you're first".
  • Member, Beta Tester
    Or alternatively and definitely more current(for people who aren't old farts):

  • Member, Beta Tester
    Brilliant! :-j
  • edited March 2019 Member, Beta Tester
    Politicians have to protect their jobs. Period. There is nothing to stop the next President of calling a crisis for the "Green New Deal." It sets no precedent that Trump called for a Border Crisis. It has been done before. And funded by other means than asking congress. Where did the money come from to bring a bunch of Omani's here. Or to allow all the dreamers in. Something that that the Democrats have forgotten about. The party wants to shore up their base. It won't be long until anyone who shows up at the polls will be allowed to vote. It will start here in California. Which reminds me. Can Ken vote in both Florida and the other state he is dwelling in? What is it, Indiana?
  • Member, Beta Tester
    Hey, Mike, you know voter fraud is the Democrat's thing (at least according to Trump!)
  • edited March 2019 Member, Beta Tester
    Not just Trump!
    More dead people voted Democratic here in California then live ones. 8-X
  • edited March 2019 Member, Beta Tester
    Is that why they're dead popular Mike? ........ but in your opinion Democrats would be more popular dead. ;))
    From Mock The Week this evening ...... A political opposition party was described as "a bunch of grown men pretending to have a job they don't have". S o in your case that would be the Democrats and in ours the Labour Party. :-j
  • Member, Beta Tester
    There are women democrats too. The latest three are more like the Three Stooges. Both parties take their television time seriously. But they do a bad job at it.
    On another note. Since I am to lazy to look it up myself. What is the tile of the person who tries to keep order in Parliament?
    It was a woman. I should know the title. And how are they chosen? The new guy seems to really enjoy shouting "Order".
  • Member, Beta Tester
    There was a Republican woman arrested here in Iowa (not Indiana!) that was arrested 2 years ago when she tried to vote twice. She said she was just trying to offset all those Democrats that Trump told her were voting twice. You can't make this shit up!
  • Member, Beta Tester
    That person is called the Speaker Mike. He/she is the person who received the most votes from fellow MP's in a series of secret ballots in which those with the fewest votes are eliminated .The eventual winner is the person who receives over 50% in the final vote. You have the same system and your guy is also called the Speaker. It's almost as if you'd copied ours. ;))
    Just because Trump said some of his rivals were voting twice doesn't make that a fact. He has a track record of making things up. It would be a ridiculous electoral system where voting twice was even possible. In a massive electorate like yours the percentage of people who attempt to do that must be miniscule, and would certainly come from both of your parties. It's hardly a strong argument when you have to quote "one woman" who tried it. Equally unconvincing is Trump's unsubstantiated accusation. Both parties are just digging up things to accuse one another of. If democracy is to survive, ALL votes in government should be secret ones so that nobody knows who voted for what. Polotical parties would become redundant and things would be decided by majority votes. It would end mud-slinging and the need for a constant procession of politicians appearing on TV. Those doing so should have a cloth bag placed over their heads and have their voices digitally disguised. The whole xxxxxx lot of them need to grow up and get on with the task of improving the lives of their electorates. What other legitimate purpose do they have?
  • Member, Beta Tester
    Speaker. Same title. But a little different. The Speaker of the House of Representatives is picked by the majority of the party. The other side has no say in the matter. Currently the post is help by Nancy Polosi a democrat from California. But she might not last much longer. The indict Trump crowd might force her out. Just so they can get a vote. In the senate it is the majority leader who has the main job. And that is Mitch McConnel. A republican.
    As I understand it. The speaker in Parliament can announce votes. An d call order. But they don't set policy.
    Both sides are crying voter fraud. Both sides want to change the rules to get more of their party into the house.
    The reason we have the voting rules. Which doesn't always get the person with the most votes into the White House. Is so the big crazy states like California and New York can elect the President. The little guys. Like IOWA can have some say in how it goes. My vote for President means nothing. The Democrat will always win the state.
    As for politicians growing up. No chance.
  • edited March 2019 Member, Beta Tester
    Our current Speaker was a member of the Conservative party. After his election to this post he is no longer allowed to cast his vote in parliament and is in effect neutral. He is both a referee and a policeman. If an MP is misbehaving, the speaker can have that person ejected from the house. He ensures that everyody adheres to rules that are hundreds of years old despite them not being actual laws. He has today ruled that the House adhere to a rule established in 1604 and is not allowing another Brexit vote in Parliament. What a shambles.
    There is something fundamentally wrong with your voting system if the likes of California these days always votes Democrat. In effect people with Republican sympathies don't have a meaningful vote. The UK has many more MP's per head of poulation than the numbers of Representatives that you have. California needs to be broken up into numerous small eletoral areas similar to ours. Caliornia has a population of about 40 million and has 53 Representatives. Scotland has 59 MP's and our population is about 5.5 million. That's over 10 MP's per million people, so if California was broken up into small regions you'd have about 429 Representatives. That way you'd get areas of your state that voted differently to others . Different areas have different needs and priorities after all. One size definitely does not fit all ...... eh fatty? :))
  • Member, Beta Tester
    Mike, wasn't there a movement to have California secede from the USA?
  • Member, Beta Tester
    Yeah ...... and move the wall further north. What a master stroke.
  • Member, Beta Tester
    California leaving the USA. A lot of people are for that. But it hasn't gone very far. Yet. there was a ballot measure that was intended to split up the state. But a judge had it removed from the ballot. It would have made Northern California totally in charge of our water supply down here
    It would probably have removed any barrier at all on California's southern border. And made it so anyone could wander in. Which could still happen with the nuts in charge of this state.
    A lot of my state is desert. And somehow that area is still in someones congressional district. States are always redistricting to get thee most representation for the party in control.
    Ken. Your party is now coming up with even more crazy ideas. Abolishing the Electoral college. Changing the Supreme court. And changing the voting age. The little states will, have no say in presidential elections.You will just have to go along with whatever California, New York and a couple of other big states want.
  • Member, Beta Tester
    Hadn't heard about changing the voting age. What do they want to change it to?
  • Member, Beta Tester
    The voting age in Scotland was lowered to 16 in 2013. Why would they do it? Simple. Politicians here worked out that the young (and stupid) would be more likely to vote to leave the UK. They are also more pro-Europe. If one party in the US imagines that they would gain an edge by following suit, it will happen, but once you open Pandoras's box ........... :-O
  • Member, Beta Tester
    Like Scotland it would be sixteen. And yes. It would bring in a whole lot more left wing voters. As young as five are already being brain washed. Some of that age confronted my friend Senator Diane Feinstein in her office here in California. Where they told her she had to vote for the Green New Deal. Their teacher was with them. And she was coaching them. They did not understand what the real issue was. Or did they have any knowledge of the cost. Or that fact that if you eliminated many of the fossil fuels. We would have to rely on trees to heat houses. And the forests would be gone. And several other problems that are involved.
    I agree with Richard on many of the climate change problems. And definitely about cleaning up the oceans. But I am also concerned how children are being taught in school. The are not told the entire story of many issues.

  • Member, Beta Tester
    How about talking about something really important?

  • Member, Beta Tester
    Ken.
    Are you out of the flood areas?
  • Member, Beta Tester
    Brilliant clip Ken. Sweet child of mine indeed. :)
    Nasty floods you're having, More records broken. "Something is going on" indeed. :))
    Bad as they are they pale into insignificance compared to those in West Africa. An area the size of Luxembourg under deep water. God knows what the death toll will be even before disease inevitably adds to it.
  • Member, Beta Tester
    We're 8 blocks from the river, so we're in no danger. Thanks for thinking about me, Mike.
  • Member, Beta Tester
    I was worried about your Mom. :-j
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