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Thomas Warfield (Support)
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Username: Support

Post Number: 7
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 9:32 am:   

This is the area for questions about Pretty Good MahJongg. The latest version is version 1.0, which can be downloaded from <http://www.goodmj.com/pgmj/download.html>.
Anonymous
Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 11:50 am:   

Why can't you make tiles of famous people instead of just chinese characters. They seem to be hard on my eyes. People or different things that could be easier to the eye would be good?
Thomas Warfield (Support)
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Username: Support

Post Number: 22
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 12:15 pm:   

We are going to have tilesets where you can just have images of various things. This is common with tile matching programs. There could be tilesets with just flags or signs or other things.

The issue we have with this in Pretty Good MahJongg is that PGMJ has solitaire games different from tile matching that require that there be numbers on the tiles. Without the numbers on the tiles, you wouldn't be able to play the solitaire games like MahJongg Klondike.

Our solution is that we will have tilesets that can be used only in the tile matching games. This will allow tilesets without numbers, just images that you match up. This feature will be in the upcoming new version of PGMJ that we are working on now.
avitakis
Unregistered guest
Posted on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 9:27 pm:   

I downloaded and installed the new layouts but I can't access them in the game.
Gene Nagy
Unregistered guest
Posted on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 11:25 pm:   

Has anyone won the game "Strict Klondike"?
Gregg Seelhoff (Seelhoff)
New Solitaire Player
Username: Seelhoff

Post Number: 4
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Saturday, January 11, 2003 - 10:15 am:   

>I downloaded and installed the new layouts but I can't access them in the game.

Here are some things to try:
- Make certain that you installed the layouts in the Pretty Good MahJongg directory. (You should have received a message that the directory already exists when installing the layouts.)
- Check to see that you have either 'All Games' or 'Tile Matching' buttons selected on the left side of the screen. (Brand new layouts would not be in any of the other categories yet.)
- Close Pretty Good MahJongg and then start it again. (Although the layouts can be installed while the game is running, it will not detect them until the next launch.)

Please let us know if any of these resolves the problem.
Gregg Seelhoff (Seelhoff)
New Solitaire Player
Username: Seelhoff

Post Number: 5
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Saturday, January 11, 2003 - 10:22 am:   

>Has anyone won the game "Strict Klondike"?

Yes, it is winnable, but it is not easy.

One trick that is handy in the Klondike games is rearranging tiles to get more on the tableau. If, for example, one has a 4 Bam/Green and an open 5 Bam/Green, and elsewhere a 4 Dot/Black on a 5 Crak/Red, one can move the 4 Dot/Black onto the 5 Bam/Green and then the 4 Bam/Green can be brought into play on the 5 Crak/Red.

This skill helps with the other Klondike games, but it is practically essential to win Strict Klondike, where one only has a single pass through the stock pile.
Thomas Warfield (Support)
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Username: Support

Post Number: 34
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Saturday, January 11, 2003 - 10:30 am:   

>I downloaded and installed the new layouts but I can't access them in the game.

Gregg's suggestions are good ones, also note that the file you download is the install file, you need to run that file to install the layouts. The most important thing is to be sure that you install them into the same folder that Pretty Good MahJongg is installed in so that the game can see them. This won't be a problem if you installed PGMJ into the default folder (C:\Program Files\Pretty Good MahJongg), but you can change that when you install the game. If you changed the folder when you installed the game, you also need to change to that same folder when you install the layouts.

After that, try Gregg's suggestions.
avitakis
Unregistered guest
Posted on Saturday, January 11, 2003 - 1:16 pm:   

The layouts had installed correctly. I didn't realize I had clicked the "Solitaire" button. Thanks for the help.
Anonymous
Posted on Saturday, January 11, 2003 - 6:06 pm:   

Pretty good solitaire has an option to suppress the date and time you have played the game. How do you do it in Pretty good mahjongg?
Anonymous
Posted on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 2:13 pm:   

On the issue of using other pictures for pretty good mahjong why not use pictures but put a number on them: i.e. rulers of nations and then have them have a number by their pictures. It just is easier to match pictues than little symbols that already look a lot alike.
Thomas Warfield (Support)
Moderator
Username: Support

Post Number: 36
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 8:12 pm:   

>Pretty good solitaire has an option to suppress the date and time you have played the game. How do you do it in Pretty good mahjongg?

Currently you can't do this in Pretty Good MahJongg. PGMJ doesn't yet have all the features Pretty Good Solitaire does.
Anonymous
Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 5:47 am:   

Has any one completed a game of strict Klondike and if so what was your tactic?
DG
Unregistered guest
Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 5:55 am:   

Oops I see the answer already to "has any one won a game of strict klondike...

By tactic I mean did you concentrate on getting rid of the stock pile or revealing those tiles on the tableau?

I have played about 100 games with no wins, I would be interested in other peoples statistics,
make me feel better :-)
Anonymous
Posted on Friday, January 24, 2003 - 2:21 pm:   

I have won one Strict Klondike and did that only when I turned off Autoplay..I do that for most of the "Pretty Good" games. This way I have more control over the placement of the tiles. Also, I try to clear out the covered tiles on the right side of the layout and complete as many columns without using a card from the stock. Everything else is luck as far as I can see.
Anonymous
Posted on Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 11:02 am:   

I downloaded the new Valentine Cards but they won't show up on the card backs. I am a registered user but maybe to old of one. Will they work anyway or do I have to register or buy a new one? Thanks.
Thomas Warfield (Support)
Moderator
Username: Support

Post Number: 77
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 12:23 pm:   

>I downloaded the new Valentine Cards but they won't show up on the card backs. I am a registered user but maybe to old of one.

The card set isn't going to work in Pretty Good MahJongg :-)

But if you mean Pretty Good Solitaire, then you need to make sure that the card set is installed in the same folder as Pretty Good Solitaire. You also need version 8.0.0 or higher of PGS to use card sets.
dg
Unregistered guest
Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 4:29 am:   

Thanks for the hint, I have switched auto play off and have now won a couple of games, making the game even more addictive :-)
DG
Unregistered guest
Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 4:38 am:   

I have a problem that may well be more to do with windows than the game. I have been playing strict Klondike and the last few times the size of the tiles is much smaller approx 1.5 cm and not the larger 2cm. The size of the tiles for the tile matching games is fine though.
Any suggestions on how to alter the size of the tiles? ( I have tried reducing and increasing the size of the window to no affect)
thanks
Gregg Seelhoff (Seelhoff)
New Solitaire Player
Username: Seelhoff

Post Number: 6
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 12:18 pm:   

>Any suggestions on how to alter the size of the tiles?

In the current version of Pretty Good MahJongg, the tiles are sized automatically based on the size of the layout and the size of the game window. Changing the game window size definitely should alter the tile sizes (to make them smaller anyway :-) ). The game chooses the largest tile size that will fit within the available window.

Tile sizes will vary among games. If the tiles are smaller in the same game, however, then something has changed with regard to the window size between runs.

To get the maximum useable window area within a certain screen resolution, one can set Windows to auto-hide the toolbar, maximize the game window, and then disable the taskbar and statusbar from the 'Options' menu. Of course, one can change the screen resolution itself, which will definitely have an impact on the tile sizes.
Patti
Unregistered guest
Posted on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 12:08 pm:   

I was excited to see that you had new tilesets. I downloaded them, but they seem to be mostly the same set, but in different colors. The Chinese characters are too hard to tell apart if you don't read Chinese. Please come out with some more tilesets that are easier to use. The basic one with just the numbers is so boring to play that I find myself not playing much!
Thomas Warfield (Support)
Moderator
Username: Support

Post Number: 193
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 1:50 pm:   

We have more tilesets in planning.
Sarita Levinthal (Sari303)
New Solitaire Player
Username: Sari303

Post Number: 4
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Sunday, March 02, 2003 - 7:47 am:   

hi all,
i just purchased mj and i love it...i have some questions tho.
1. is there a way to edit the favorites section?
2. is there a way to turn off the timer?
also in another mj program i have used (hoyle) they use egyptian tiles which are much easier on the eyes and mind. :-)
Gregg Seelhoff (Seelhoff)
New Solitaire Player
Username: Seelhoff

Post Number: 9
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 3:09 am:   

>1. is there a way to edit the favorites section?

Yes. Every game has an 'Add to Favorites' option under the 'Games' menu, as a quick way to add the current game. In order to remove a game from the Favorites, select 'Options|Game...' from that game and uncheck 'Include in Favorites' (or check this box to add a game).

>2. is there a way to turn off the timer?

Turn off the status bar. :-)

Short of this drastic measure, there is not a way to disable the timer (yet). It is safe to ignore, though...
Anonymous
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2003 - 8:20 am:   

Hi, it seems I have encountered very strange problem. Since I haven't seen it reported here, there must be something wrong with my system(s)?
The problem: additional layout and tileset files do not install saying "This program must be run under Win32" instead. I ran them on two different systems running Windows 98 and Windows 98 SE. PGMJ works fine on both. What gives?
Gregg Seelhoff (Seelhoff)
New Solitaire Player
Username: Seelhoff

Post Number: 13
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2003 - 8:54 am:   

>The problem: additional layout and tileset files do not install saying "This program must be run under Win32" instead.

This sounds like you may have a corrupted download. I would try downloading the file(s) again to see if that is the problem. If not, please be a little more specific about which file gave you this error.

I just downloaded the complete set of layouts for PGMJ 1.0 (pgmjlayouts.exe) and the installer started fine for me under Windows 98. (If it was a different file, I can try testing that instead.)

I should also note that the latest version of Pretty Good MahJongg is 1.1, which already contains all of the (currently) downloadable layouts, so these are only necessary with the older version. The downloadable tile sets (which are much larger than layouts) are still optional.
Thomas Warfield (Support)
Moderator
Username: Support

Post Number: 265
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2003 - 9:42 am:   

Gregg's advice is right, you need to delete the file and redownload.

The file corruption was actually caused by a configuration problem on our server after we had a server crash last week. That has now been corrected. You must have downloaded the file in between the time the server crashed and when we got the problem fixed. Just delete the file and download again.

Also, as Gregg said, you don't need to download the additional layouts file if you have version 1.1, since currently all of the layouts are in version 1.1 (there are no new ones since version 1.1 came out yet).

Which reminds me (since I'm here), version 1.1 has a layout editor in the registered version that you can use to create your own tile matching layouts. If anyone makes an interesting layout, you can email it to me (the .layout file) and and I wili post it on the layouts page.
Sarita Levinthal (Sari303)
New Solitaire Player
Username: Sari303

Post Number: 8
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 9:31 am:   

hi all,
i really am enjoying the new version of pgm...thomas thanks soo much for getting rid of the timer and the new tile sets...i like the bakelite for all games but gaps in which i use the simple tiles...
could you make sea towers version of mj i like it better than free cell in pgs...
once again thank you for then new version
Gregg Seelhoff (Seelhoff)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Seelhoff

Post Number: 14
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 9:54 am:   

>could you make sea towers version of mj

I have added this to the list of suggestions for the next version.

Thank you for the feedback.
Aimee Pearson
Unregistered guest
Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 4:13 pm:   

Please do you have any tips for mj gaps. At the moment I'm playing without any strategy and keep coming up a cropper with the letter (flowers, seasons)and haven't yet won a game.
Gregg Seelhoff (Seelhoff)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Seelhoff

Post Number: 27
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 1:25 am:   

>Please do you have any tips for mj gaps.

When I play, I pay attention to the positions of the Jokers (Flowers and Seasons), especially the fourth, which prevents further building. I try not to leave spaces behind these and, when I do, I attempt to move the Joker sequence elsewhere, allowing me to move tiles into the empty space(s).

As far as the lower tiles are concerned, I first try to get all 6 Dragons in place, and then build the sequences (roughly) evenly. In general, the game takes quite a bit of planning, and not quite as much tile moving.

I hope this helps a little. :-)

Aimee Pearson (Aimeelou)
New Solitaire Player
Username: Aimeelou

Post Number: 1
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 5:14 pm:   

Hooray!
Thanks Greg. First game won and only one reshuffle needed.:-)

Roula
Unregistered guest
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 12:27 pm:   

Is the tile shuffle in Strict Klondike truly random? It almost seems as though the fourth "wild" card of each suit is located at the bottom of deck more often than it should.

I've played 1,321 games and won 11...not easy.
Gregg Seelhoff (Seelhoff)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Seelhoff

Post Number: 28
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 2:18 pm:   

>Is the tile shuffle in Strict Klondike truly random?

From a practical perspective, yes, it is truly random. There is a 1 in 11 chance that a Dragon will be the last tile in the stock, but because it is more noteworthy when that happens, the human mind tends to recall it better, so it seems like it happens more often than it actually does.

[I could talk for quite a while about human perception when it comes to random numbers and related topics, but I will stop here. :-)]

From a technical perspective, the term is "pseudo-random", because a computer cannot produce truly random numbers (nor can a human being). The method for deriving the numbers, however, is sufficiently close to true random that any perceived imbalance is either a result of true statistical randomness, or the mind playing tricks with manufactured patterns.

[Insert previous caviat here. :-)]
Roula
Unregistered guest
Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 10:02 am:   

I'm sure you're right, even though my mind keeps telling me different :-)
Gregg Seelhoff (Seelhoff)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Seelhoff

Post Number: 29
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 10:50 am:   

>I'm sure you're right, even though my mind keeps telling me different

LOL :-)

I have worked on computer Backgammon games in the past, and some players are absolutely convinced that every last one of these games cheats by manipulating the dice, for the same reason.
Don Wood (Dwood)
New Solitaire Player
Username: Dwood

Post Number: 1
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 8:56 am:   

I was playing Klondike. Suddenly one of the tiles flashed and turned itself over, I was almost finished with the game. When I hit auto-play because all of the tiles were upturned with the one exception, it played until it hit the card that was turned over, it was in a completed row. Then I got the error message that there was an error and Windows wanted to send the info to Microsoft. Am using XP Home. Have an Athlon 1250 processor, 528 Megs of RAM. First and only time it's happened.
Gregg Seelhoff (Seelhoff)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Seelhoff

Post Number: 31
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 5:11 pm:   

>I was playing Klondike. Suddenly one of the tiles flashed and turned itself over, I was almost finished with the game. When I hit auto-play because all of the tiles were upturned with the one exception, it played until it hit the card that was turned over, it was in a completed row.

That is really strange. I have never seen anything like this, and we have not had any reports of this problem.

When you say "one of the tiles flashed", I am not sure exactly what you mean. Did it disappear entirely and then reappear face down? What exactly were you doing at the time (e.g., dragging a tile, right clicking a tile, nothing)?

Also, I could use a better understanding of where the problem tile was located when it happened. Was it at the top or bottom of a pile, the bottom face up card (above some face down), or just in the middle of a sequence?

I play regularly and have not had any problems whatsoever, but hopefully the above questions (well, the answers :-)) will help us identify the issue. Also, if it happens again, please save the game right away (before making more moves) and send it to us so we can see the sequence of actions that led to the problem.
Don Wood (Dwood)
New Solitaire Player
Username: Dwood

Post Number: 2
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 9:51 pm:   

Whether it flashed or not, the upshot was that the tile turned itself over. It was in the middle of a sequence, the tiles had all been shown and placed in a sequence. When everything is finished except for finishing the hand I invoke autoplay which finishes the game much faster than right-clicking on each card. This is the first time it happened. Usually you have a very stable product which I've enjoyed for years. FMI. How do I save a game so as to send it to you? It was almost as if it had run out of memory resources. I rebooted the computer. I don't have auto-save on so if I stop a game it doesn't get posted to the record.
Thanks.
Don
Gregg Seelhoff (Seelhoff)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Seelhoff

Post Number: 32
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 10:23 pm:   

>How do I save a game so as to send it to you?

Select 'Game|Save...' from the program menu, or press the [F6] key, and this will allow you to manually save the game in progress. You can then either email it to the support address or attach it to a post in this forum.

>It was almost as if it had run out of memory resources.

It does sound like something like that may have happened. Specifically, it seems like something external may have corrupted game memory, which could tell the program to do something weird (like turn an arbitrary tile face down :-)).

However, we will do some additional testing here to see if we can reproduce anything like this. If you get more information about the problem, please let us know.

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