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Maebee (Maebee)
Junior Solitaire Player
Username: Maebee

Post Number: 5
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 19, 2004 - 12:46 pm:   

The following are coming between me and my night's sleep. Can anybody help?

Senior Wrangler, Pharohs, Diavlo, Push-Pin,
Five piles, Triangle, Bridesmaids, Tetsol,
Thirteen packs, Calculation and Fourteens.

Many thanks in advance
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul

Post Number: 160
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 19, 2004 - 1:05 pm:   

hi try the following
Pharohs 206083713
Diavolo 100463
Push pin 504370497
five piles 1048474561
Triangle 1962869376
Bridesmaid 324615297
Tetsol 2030445312
13 packs 1000094
Calculation 1363538304
If you still cannot sleep i can send you all the moves for Diavolo and 13 packs as well

Bye Paul
Ken Millar
Unregistered guest
Posted on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 1:21 am:   

Paul, I was trying your number for Triangle, and I went to the stats page and I saw a player there named Mick Forsdick. Any relation?
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul

Post Number: 161
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 4:15 am:   

Hi Ken
yes indeed he is my brother
we live in the same house and I recommended the game to him when he saw i was playing it a lot.
down to 20 games now as I knocked of triple scorpion and triple triangle yesterday
it took a lot of time for both of them though
Paul
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul

Post Number: 162
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 3:09 pm:   

Hi
shock horror I just WON Idle Aces
with Game 1473082624
I thought this game was impossible
I thought I had blown it when the last 2 cards were the wrong way round but it reasonable easy by not paying one of the last kings when you can.
down to 18 to go

Bye Paul
Ken Millar
Unregistered guest
Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2004 - 10:30 am:   

Paul, what's the other game you won besides Idle Aces (since your last post was that you had 20 to go)?
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul

Post Number: 164
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2004 - 10:43 am:   

Hi Ken
down to 17 now as I cleared Big spider, Cone ,Grounds for divorce as well as the surprise Idle aces but had to add striptease back on as i found that years ago i Won it with the unshuffled deck so I consider this to be cheating so it is back on as an unwon game.

cone is a great game to win and the other spider games were because I didn't play these much so were quite easy

Bye Paul
mark william todd (Mwtodd)
Advanced Solitaire Player
Username: Mwtodd

Post Number: 57
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Friday, October 22, 2004 - 2:20 am:   

Hi Paul,
try # 1339783552 for Striptease
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul

Post Number: 165
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Friday, October 22, 2004 - 3:43 am:   

Hi Mark
Thank you
it worked a treat
now to try the last sixteen getting harder now and I have the winning number from various people for seven of them but no luck yet
Bye Paul
James Gray
Unregistered guest
Posted on Sunday, October 24, 2004 - 1:57 pm:   

I was curious about other folk's experience with Spider and when I saw some of the outrageous claims of hundreds of wins and NO losses I almost puked. I average around 7% if I'm lucky. I would be interested in knowing how these people do it when the deck is stacked so badly against winning in most cases. Case in point: game # 1333075456 I challenge anyone to beat that game.
mark william todd (Mwtodd)
Advanced Solitaire Player
Username: Mwtodd

Post Number: 58
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Monday, October 25, 2004 - 3:24 am:   

Hi James, that spider game #1333075456 you quoted is winnable. It is a challenge, I agree.1333075456,104,#2004-10-25 09:19:52#,#TRUE#
todd & becky norwich uk
James Gray
Unregistered guest
Posted on Tuesday, October 26, 2004 - 2:31 pm:   

Thanks for the comment, Mark.
However, I think you're wrong--it's not winnable.
The 1st deal has NO plays, the 2nd deal has NO plays. The rest of the deals aren't much better with the last deal having only one move.
Jim
mark william todd (Mwtodd)
Advanced Solitaire Player
Username: Mwtodd

Post Number: 59
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Wednesday, October 27, 2004 - 9:50 am:   

Are we playing goodsols version of spider?
James Gray
Unregistered guest
Posted on Wednesday, October 27, 2004 - 11:20 am:   

Yes, version 10.1.0--The latest
mark william todd (Mwtodd)
Advanced Solitaire Player
Username: Mwtodd

Post Number: 60
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Friday, October 29, 2004 - 2:06 am:   

Its in our stats as a win, sorry;
Yvonne White (Ladydeere)
Intermediate Solitaire Player
Username: Ladydeere

Post Number: 28
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Friday, October 29, 2004 - 8:03 am:   

Since I'm a Spider fan, I tried 1333075456. Todd and Becky are right, it was quite a challenge, but I won it too. Yvonne
mark william todd (Mwtodd)
Advanced Solitaire Player
Username: Mwtodd

Post Number: 61
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Monday, November 01, 2004 - 3:44 pm:   

Thankyou Yvonne;
Peg Mueller (Tzrnpeg)
Advanced Solitaire Player
Username: Tzrnpeg

Post Number: 61
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Friday, November 05, 2004 - 9:32 pm:   

Paul, I've been trying all day to win Idle Aces #1473082624 with no success. I'm close, but I end up with a hidden 3 behind the 2. The kings aren't the problem, it is the darn 3/2 combination. Can you give me some kind of hint that doesn't involve telling me the moves?

And BTW, has anyone won Robert yet?

I'm down to 14 games.
Peg
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul

Post Number: 173
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 2:39 am:   

Peg
the only hint I can give is and the end of the first deal the going down piles are on 4 4 8 10 and the going up piles are on 6 8 9 K
so this does not tell you the moves to get to here or afterwards but if you get to this position do a snapshot
I will documnent all the moves so if you are still stuck or anyone else wants them i can give them
Congratulation on 14 mine is 11 what are your 14
bye and hope this helps
Paul
Peg Mueller (Tzrnpeg)
Advanced Solitaire Player
Username: Tzrnpeg

Post Number: 62
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 8:02 am:   

Paul,
The 14 that have me stumped are Boudoir, Bridesmaids, British Canister, Crossroads, Eighty Thieves, Forwards and Backwards, Fourteens, German Patience, Idle Aces, Kings and Aces, Picture Patience, Queens and Jacks, Robert, and Spaces and Aces.

I know there are some winning numbers for the above games, but I haven't been able to get them to work yet. Plus, I play with the King Only option so that makes some more difficult.

Now, let me go see where I am on Idle Aces.
Thanks!
Peg
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul

Post Number: 174
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 8:21 am:   

Hi Peg
10 of yours are the same on my list as well
I can help with bridesmaids 324615297 as i have it documented.
two clues to start you off though
do not leave the 10 where it is but move it down one line put the ten diamonds at the top and do not play the Jack spades until the diamonds reach king other wise you do not get very far

Bye Paul
Peg Mueller (Tzrnpeg)
Advanced Solitaire Player
Username: Tzrnpeg

Post Number: 63
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 9:03 am:   

Paul,
I can't believe it, but even when I get my snapshot in exactly the same configuration as yours, I *still* end up with either a 4/3 or a 3/2 combination at the end! Geesh! I'll keep at it though.
Peg
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul

Post Number: 175
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 11:51 am:   

Hi Peg

a second clue
twice in the last deal you must be able to play the red sixes on the going down piles so you may need to move a 7 each time from the up pile to the down pile.
I can give you any moves for the second deal because if you have got to the same position on the first deal then the first 3 cards are 7s 10d and 9h which should all be able to play.
hope this helps
Paul
Peg Mueller (Tzrnpeg)
Advanced Solitaire Player
Username: Tzrnpeg

Post Number: 64
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 12:21 pm:   

Paul wrote:
if you have got to the same position on the first deal then the first 3 cards are 7s 10d and 9h

Sorry Paul, but those 3 cards will ALWAYS be the 1st 3 cards of the 2nd deal because they are the 1st 3 cards OF THE DECK that can't be played initially. <grin> You'd be amazed at how many variations there are AFTER those first cards!

I'm still working on it. Even if I get to your snapshot position, the order of the cards left is still different. There's something I'm not seeing... yet.

Peg
Ken Blackwell (Blackie9)
Solitaire Player
Username: Blackie9

Post Number: 11
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 12:24 pm:   

Thanks Paul I got it with you clues. Down to 119 to go. I just broke 200 so Im goin' pretty well but its about to get harder me thinkith.

Jax Ken
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul

Post Number: 176
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 12:59 pm:   

Hi
well done ken and it does get harder later on
was it the clues for Bridesmaid or Idle aces?

Peg
on second deal first ten cards i actually played to foundations are 7s down 10d up 9h up 6h down js up 9c down 8d down 3c down 7s down 10h up and the 6 diamonds must be able to be played
You will get there soon

still struggling with German patience today with still over 30 cards left each time
Paul
Pauline Mueller (Likescards300)
Junior Solitaire Player
Username: Likescards300

Post Number: 7
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 3:10 pm:   

Hi group:
I was playing Golf and I got all cards but one.
That's my best score.
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul

Post Number: 177
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 3:15 pm:   

Hi
try 1823089664 for Golf I got this on my 434th game on 13th april 2001

Paul
Peg Mueller (Tzrnpeg)
Advanced Solitaire Player
Username: Tzrnpeg

Post Number: 65
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 3:26 pm:   

581107457 is another winning number for Golf.

Peg
Yvonne White (Ladydeere)
Intermediate Solitaire Player
Username: Ladydeere

Post Number: 29
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 4:24 pm:   

Try 908933057 for Eighty Thieves. I still believe we'll all end up with British Canister NEVER being won. I hate it!
Pauline Mueller (Likescards300)
Junior Solitaire Player
Username: Likescards300

Post Number: 8
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 5:15 pm:   

Thanks Paul and Peg I won Golf 1823089664 on the
first try and 581107457 after three tries.
Polly.
Ken Blackwell (Blackie9)
Solitaire Player
Username: Blackie9

Post Number: 12
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 9:05 pm:   

Hi Paul,

Both but the move down on the ten was the best! Didnt catch that it could be done.

Jax ken
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul

Post Number: 178
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2004 - 4:28 am:   

Hi Polly
Glad we could help with Golf and it took me 5 tries to get Peg's number
I agree with you on British Canister as my best score on 492 games is 14 and i also agree that Robert is impossible without using an unshuffled deck.I think the others are still probably possible.
The only one that is not on Peg's list of 14 that I have not won is Binary Star which i find very tricky and often get to 2 or 3 cards which do not go.


Paul
Peg Mueller (Tzrnpeg)
Advanced Solitaire Player
Username: Tzrnpeg

Post Number: 66
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2004 - 8:19 am:   

Paul,
Try #1696781184 for Binary Star.

Peg
Peg Mueller (Tzrnpeg)
Advanced Solitaire Player
Username: Tzrnpeg

Post Number: 67
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Tuesday, November 09, 2004 - 9:49 am:   

Paul,
I finally got Bridesmaids! Thanks! Now on to the others.

Peg
Peg Mueller (Tzrnpeg)
Advanced Solitaire Player
Username: Tzrnpeg

Post Number: 68
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Tuesday, November 09, 2004 - 10:46 am:   

Wow, I'm on a roll! Just got Idle Aces! Maybe now is a good time to try Robert? <grin>

Peg
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul

Post Number: 179
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Tuesday, November 09, 2004 - 11:51 am:   

Peg

well done and glad I could help it is a great feeling when these 2 work
still struggling with Binary star though

Paul
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul

Post Number: 180
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 2:28 pm:   

Hi
I have been struggling with that spider game 1333075456
I know it is winnable and sometime I get one lot of clubs up and I have been trying it for days
any clues you winning people
Paul
Ella Prest (Daizy)
Junior Solitaire Player
Username: Daizy

Post Number: 10
Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 8:27 pm:   

Whew! Aunt Mary was getting boooooring, 102nd game did it. Now back to pigtail. 127 to go
Ella
Ken Blackwell (Blackie9)
Solitaire Player
Username: Blackie9

Post Number: 13
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Friday, November 12, 2004 - 4:08 pm:   

Peg,

Try #1019262657 on Spaces and Aces if you havent done it yet. I kind of like the game. My frist time trying it but then Free Parking is one of my favorites.

hope it helps,

Jax Ken
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul

Post Number: 181
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Sunday, November 14, 2004 - 6:49 am:   

Hello James
re Spider 13307546
I felt i had to accept your challenge as i know that everybody who said they won this game were always helpful to me and their games were always won when they said they were.I was as usual stuck on all spider games .
however with the Moves I got from Yvonne (ladydeere) which took you to getting the hearts and clubs out i worked out the next 100 or so moves and the proof that the game game be won is on the attached document which takes you from the first move to the position were all cards are uncovered
I hope there are no errors and many thanks again to Yvonne

regards Paul
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul

Post Number: 182
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Sunday, November 14, 2004 - 6:51 am:   

with attachement this time
text/richtext
SPIDER 1333075456.rtf (20.5 k)
James Gray
Unregistered guest
Posted on Sunday, November 14, 2004 - 3:28 pm:   

Paul et al,
Many thanks for the solution to that game. I guess I don't have the patience to stay with a game that appears unbeatable. Thanks also for the effort you put in to describe the steps to the solution. You people are geniuses!

Jim
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul

Post Number: 184
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Monday, November 15, 2004 - 2:37 pm:   

hi James
thank you but I am not a Genius and i found I made a few mistakes on the list so here it is again for anybody
text/richtext
SPIDER 1333075456.rtf (20.5 k)

i do have moves for the following if any body is losing sleep over these
Alhambra, alternations, arcordian, freecell 26576, reserves, waxing moon, forty nine, 13 packs, diavolo, double kingsly, penelopes web, the plot.
I think i will have another evening trying to get Fourteens without any hope of success
bye Paul
Peg Mueller (Tzrnpeg)
Advanced Solitaire Player
Username: Tzrnpeg

Post Number: 69
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Monday, November 15, 2004 - 3:33 pm:   

Can anyone do anything with British Canister #1892571392? This is my highest scoring game (score of 12) but it dies early.

Peg
mark william todd (Mwtodd)
Advanced Solitaire Player
Username: Mwtodd

Post Number: 64
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 1:28 am:   

hi Paul,
try # 1079455616 for fourteens.
Peg Mueller (Tzrnpeg)
Advanced Solitaire Player
Username: Tzrnpeg

Post Number: 70
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 9:58 am:   

Mark, the problem I have with fourteens is not knowing where to start. Do I try to clear the middle first? Or the top/bottom rows? I know I need to be able to create a hole in the top so I can fill it with something from the bottom, but there are just so many variables!

Peg
Peg Mueller (Tzrnpeg)
Advanced Solitaire Player
Username: Tzrnpeg

Post Number: 71
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 11:50 am:   

I did it! Finally won Fourteens with Mark's number (1079455616). Thanks! Unfortunately, I have no idea how to save the game so that I can give you the steps, but I do have a list of the cards in the deck and the order they are played - if that will help anyone.

Peg
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul

Post Number: 185
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 11:59 am:   

hi peg
I had Marks winning number in April and have tried it hundreds of times with no success and do not believe i can ever win it although i did get down to 4 cards once
the only way I know to record a game is to not play the last card then Undo to the beginning and redo and write the moves down.
and with British Canister you can beat your highest score by 2 with game 1915146880

Bye Paul
Yvonne White (Ladydeere)
Intermediate Solitaire Player
Username: Ladydeere

Post Number: 32
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 9:55 pm:   

I sure wish you knew what you did to win Fourteens. I am so aggravated with it. You are right, it has to be the order that you clear and you MUST do it in the "right" order. I give up.
I can't play the games I hate.
Peg Mueller (Tzrnpeg)
Advanced Solitaire Player
Username: Tzrnpeg

Post Number: 72
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 9:58 pm:   

Yvonne, I'll play it a few more times and see if I can win it again. Give me a day or two.

Peg
Peg Mueller (Tzrnpeg)
Advanced Solitaire Player
Username: Tzrnpeg

Post Number: 73
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 8:40 am:   

OK, Yvonne, I won it again and I *THINK* I figured out how to save the game. Now, can I upload it??? Let me know if this works for you.
text/plainFourteens_107945561.pgs
Fourteens_107945561.pgs (1.6 k)


Just click on UndoSnap to get back to the beginning of the game.

Peg
Yvonne White (Ladydeere)
Intermediate Solitaire Player
Username: Ladydeere

Post Number: 33
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 10:09 am:   

Well, now I know why I was having so much trouble. I was playing Mark's game 1079455616. You were playing 107945561. As soon as I dealt your game, I realized something was wrong. Thanks so much for the help. At least it's a win!
Peg Mueller (Tzrnpeg)
Advanced Solitaire Player
Username: Tzrnpeg

Post Number: 74
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 11:40 am:   

Yvonne, glad you could make it work. I don't consider it a "win" for me if I use someone else's saved game UNLESS I can make it work for me after seeing how they do it. For instance, even though I have the winning moves for Eighty Thieves, I'm still working at it because I can't seem to do it myself. Guess I must be thick. <g>

Peg
Ken Blackwell (Blackie9)
Solitaire Player
Username: Blackie9

Post Number: 15
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 12:05 pm:   

I agree, I like to know it can be won. I then will play it and play it. Im still working on Fourteen. 79 to go!

Jax Ken
Peg Mueller (Tzrnpeg)
Advanced Solitaire Player
Username: Tzrnpeg

Post Number: 75
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 11:18 am:   

Those of you that are good at manipulating cards - give Boudoir #1933472512 at try. I'm awfully close... but no cigar yet.

Peg
Ken Millar
Unregistered guest
Posted on Thursday, December 09, 2004 - 10:26 am:   

Paul, haven't heard an update from you in a while. How many games do you have left to go? I'm stuck at 30, and probably will be forever because like Yvonne's post from a month ago, I can't stand playing games that I hate!
Peg Mueller (Tzrnpeg)
Advanced Solitaire Player
Username: Tzrnpeg

Post Number: 77
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Thursday, December 09, 2004 - 4:19 pm:   

I'm not Paul, but... I'm down to 8 games. They're all either "luck" or impossible. Unless someone comes up with a winning number for one of them, I'll probably give up.

Peg
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul

Post Number: 189
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Thursday, December 09, 2004 - 4:55 pm:   

Hi
I am still stuck on 10
no luck with German patience winning number as I cannot get below 30 however i try and Binary star is driving me up the wall with the winning number
got a liking for freecell again and played the numbers 1-100 with no loses this week
Paul
Ken Millar
Unregistered guest
Posted on Thursday, December 09, 2004 - 11:50 pm:   

Sorry, Peg, I didn't mean to slight you! What are the 8 games you have left to win?
mark william todd (Mwtodd)
Advanced Solitaire Player
Username: Mwtodd

Post Number: 65
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Friday, December 10, 2004 - 2:44 am:   

hi Paul,
here are our three winning #s for binary star;
285143617,104,#2004-02-19 13:19:40#,#TRUE#
774818817,104,#2004-04-07 08:22:41#,#TRUE#
1486674688,104,#2004-04-09 10:55:03#,#TRUE#
good luck;
Peg Mueller (Tzrnpeg)
Advanced Solitaire Player
Username: Tzrnpeg

Post Number: 78
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Friday, December 10, 2004 - 9:30 am:   

Ken, I didn't feel slighted at all. <g>
I still need to win Boudoir, British Canister, Forwards and Backwards, German Patience, Kings and Aces, Picture Patience, Queens and Jacks, and Robert.
Ken Millar
Unregistered guest
Posted on Friday, December 10, 2004 - 10:56 am:   

Peg, You're right. All of those games (with the exception of German Patience) are pure luck, so we'll probably never win them. BTW, did you notice in the stats page for German Patience that Davies Owens from Osprey, FL has won German Patience 12 times! I wonder if he ever visits the message boards. Davies, can you help a brother out??
Cara Jordan
Unregistered guest
Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 12:01 am:   

I won German Patience 1447477760. The columns start with:
6h, 2h, qd, ah, 8s, 3d, 4h, 8s. I don't have the moves, so i hope that helps.

Also, can someone help me with idle aces, I tried the number given earlier, and I just can't get it. thanks!
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul

Post Number: 190
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 2:25 pm:   

Hi Idle Aces game 147308624
this is first deal
play the following cards when they appear
3s 3s 4c 4d 3h qs 3d ah as 4s qc 5h qs 6h 7h jc 10h jc jd 5d qd js 8c 6s 7d 8c 5s 10s 10c 9d going down
8s 7c 4c 5c ad 6s 9s going down 10c up 6c up 10d 7c 6c 9c down jh qh as 5c kc 8h down 8d up 7h down 8h 6d 4h 9h up 5h 4h first deal ends and you should be left with the up piles as KC 8d 9h and 6c and the down piles at 4h 4h 10d and 8h
the second deal is quite straight forward but the trick is you need to get the 2 red 6's out
let me know if you need the rest of the moves
Ken Millar
Unregistered guest
Posted on Saturday, December 18, 2004 - 9:33 am:   

Paul, what am I doing wrong? I can't even get beyond the first deal. I end up with KC, 9H, 6C (right), but 10s in the up pile, and 4h, 4h, 10d (right) but JS in the down pile. It seems like I'm misplacing a 9 somewhere, but I can't figure out where! As usual, thanks for the help! Ken
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul

Post Number: 191
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Saturday, December 18, 2004 - 11:51 am:   

Hi Ken

I think i missed a move out before the 9s going down so the third lines should have read
8s 7c 4c 5c ad 6s 9s going up then 4 moves later a different 9s going down 10c up etc
Hope this works now
let me know if it doesnt
bye Paul
Ken Millar
Unregistered guest
Posted on Sunday, December 19, 2004 - 9:27 pm:   

Thanks, Paul, that did the trick! BTW, did Cara's winning number for German Patience help you (or at least get you below 30 cards left)? Ken
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul

Post Number: 194
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 11:49 am:   

Hi Ken
glad it worked
no luck yet with Cara's number but got down to 25 with it though
definitely not one of the easiest games for me
Paul
Cara Jordan
Unregistered guest
Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 6:48 pm:   

Paul,
thanks so much for your help with idle aces, did you win german patience yet?

Cara
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul

Post Number: 211
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 - 1:05 pm:   

Hi Cara
Glad to help with Idle aces
still stuck on german Patience though

Paul
Cara Jordan
Unregistered guest
Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 - 3:06 pm:   

Paul, I wrote down the moves for the german patience, so let me know if you want them, or if i can help at all.

cara
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul

Post Number: 212
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 - 3:20 pm:   

Hi Cara

yes please
my email address is pondpaul@hotmail.com

regards Paul
Ken Blackwell (Blackie9)
Intermediate Solitaire Player
Username: Blackie9

Post Number: 33
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - 2:39 pm:   

Finally got it!! I kept having the 9 blocked by the jack at the end. Thanks Cara

Ken
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul

Post Number: 227
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 12:20 pm:   

Hi Cara
finally got it as well a lot longer time than ken though
it is a great feeling with only one 3d left and a 2 to put it on
down to 9 to go
thanks again
Paul
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
New Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 3
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 5:34 am:   

Some of you are looking for numbers for German Patience.In my excitement I remembered to save my winner which is unusual for me. Hope this helps you to see how it should be played.
Richard
text/plainGerman Patience
German Patience_1447477760.pgs (4.1 k)
Ken Blackwell (Blackie9)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Blackie9

Post Number: 129
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 12:32 pm:   

Here a couple of show stoppers for me in long winning runs. If anyone can help it would be great.

Acquaintance #803308224 after 1005 wins.....
Twenty #611691777
Cleopatra #155428353
Monaco #640965377

Thanks

Jax Ken
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 127
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Sunday, November 19, 2006 - 4:32 am:   

Hi Ken,
Here are my early conclusions of your sticklers. Not very optimistic I'm afraid.

Acquaintance #803308224. This MAY be winnable. Had several attempts and my best score so far is 37. You'll already have worked out that you must refuse to take one (or more?) of the playable cards in the first deal. It will be a case of trial and error to find out which ones to ignore until their second or third appearance.
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Twenty #611691777. Doubt if I'll get anywhere with this. Critical cards buried early and look impossible to rescue.
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Cleopatra #155428353. Looking like 1-0 for the Asp. Will have more attempts though. Think Thomas forgot to put a two of clubs in the pack. That's my excuse anyway.
-------------------------------------------------- Monaco #640965377. Fairly sure this is a dead duck. So few moves possible and none of them alters the top left corner which becomes more and more dodo-like.
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Richard
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 129
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Monday, November 20, 2006 - 6:41 pm:   

Hi Ken,
Have reached 46 with Acquaintance now. Still think it can be cracked. No farther forward with the others though.
Richard.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 143
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 7:04 am:   

Hi Ken,
Think I'll give up on Acquaintance #803308224. Have been very close by different routes. Uploading todays best effort. See if you can tinker with it and get one of the jacks into play.
application/octet-streamJacking it in.
Acquaintance c_803308224.pgs (4.4 k)
Ken Blackwell (Blackie9)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Blackie9

Post Number: 136
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 1:52 pm:   

OMG I got acquaintance 803308224. Hope my listening to the kids and using the acro dosnt offend anyone. I was so sure it was unwinnable. Richard , you said you thought it could be done!

thanks

Jax Ken
text/plainOutstanding!
Acquaintance_803308224.pgs (4.5 k)
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 166
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 2:50 pm:   

Hi Ken,
WELL DONE INDEED! A stubborn streak doesn't go amiss in PGS.Sometimes with games like this it's just a war of attrition. You've just got to grind it into submission.
Are you familiar with the acro FNPC? It's one I've just invented. I cannot get the stupid beast to accept the change to the file extension. It's adamant I want a text file. It's accepted these files previously without any problem. PCPMT?
Anyway thanks for having faith in me and congratulations for giving it the coup de gras.
Richard.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 167
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 5:34 pm:   

Hello again Ken,
Check the times between these messages! That's how long I've been I've been engaged in a battle of wills with this PC. For anyone else who may have had problems renaming downloaded .pgs files, this is how to get your own way.
Whilst the file is still in My Documents where it was downloaded to, OPEN IT. Make no changes and click on Save As. In the drop down choices under "Save As Type" choose MS DOS Format. It will then show as a PGS file.
Old dogs can learn new tricks.
Richard.
Ken Blackwell (Blackie9)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Blackie9

Post Number: 138
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 2:28 pm:   

Richard try Aquaintance #1635447167.

thanks for the help.

Jax ken
Ken Blackwell (Blackie9)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Blackie9

Post Number: 139
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 9:21 am:   

Got it

thanks,
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 193
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 11:03 am:   

Hi Ken,
Been out for most of the day, but was making some progress when I came back online and saw you'd won it. Well done.
Did you realise that the top four cards in the left hand column become the top row when you redeal? This is equally true with the second redeal. Makes forward planning a bit easier.
Richard.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 194
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 12:51 pm:   

Hi Ken,
I've had a closer look at the redeals. If your left hand column had 12 cards at the time of a redeal, the first four cards would then be dealt as line one,the second four as line two, and the third four as line three. This makes it easier to manipulate the cards so that lower value cards are not blocked in with kings or queens. Hope you find this helpful.
Richard.

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