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Charles Thurman (Chas)
New Solitaire Player
Username: Chas

Post Number: 2
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 9:19 am:   

Fairly new at freecell and Three cells but after a couple of weeks am doing ok. Started at 1 on Three Cells and going up I'm stuck on #21.!! Been wrestling that thing for 2 days.!! I'm sure it's winnable 'cause they are all supposedly so. Could I have a hint, please?

Chas.
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul

Post Number: 382
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 9:33 am:   

Hi Charles
this is how i started it 3s-4s 6d up 3d-4s 8h up 7h up ah out 5c-6h 7h-8c 6c-7h 3s up 4d-5c 3c -4d 2s-3d jh-qc 5h-6c 9d-10s as out 2s out 3s out 9h up 3d to space
hope this helps
the first game with 3 cells that cannot be won looks to be game 169 so you have quite a lot to go till you reach it
regards Paul
Charles Thurman (Chas)
New Solitaire Player
Username: Chas

Post Number: 3
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 10:00 am:   

Thank you Paul. I really enjoy the game. And thanks for the #169 tip. I should be about there sometime in January...:-)

Chas.
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul

Post Number: 383
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 10:09 am:   

Hi Chas
sorry about the mistake on the first move
you probably worked out it should be 3s-4d
these are the games up to 1000 that cannot be won in 3 cells
169, 178, 285, 454, 575, 598, 617, 657, 775,829, 988,
Paul
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 1338
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Saturday, December 29, 2007 - 5:30 pm:   

One of them is winnable, but no joy with the others.
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Three Cells_575_difficult.pgs (1.3 k)
Charles Thurman (Chas)
Junior Solitaire Player
Username: Chas

Post Number: 4
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Sunday, December 30, 2007 - 1:10 am:   

Richard:
I take it that you beat #575 and that .pgs is the method? But how to read all those #s??
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 1339
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Sunday, December 30, 2007 - 4:04 am:   

Hi Charles. Yes 575 is winnable, but far from easy. You need to take cards back off the foundations before it becomes possible. The (dot).pgs just tells you that it is a Pretty Good Solitaire file and that's what you need to run it. Have a look in the "Is It Winnable" section and locate PICTORIAL DOWNLOAD GUIDE and follow the instructions there.
In this instance it will be this link that you're interested in,
../18/Three_Cel ls_575_difficult-4095.txt
but see if you can locate and use it as instructed.
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul

Post Number: 400
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Sunday, December 30, 2007 - 4:35 am:   

Hi Charles
3 cells 21 is winnable
I started like this
3s-4d 6d up 3d-4s 8h up 7h up ah out 5c-6h 7h-8c 6c-7h 3s up 4d-5c 3c-4d 2d-3c jh-qc 5h-6c 9d-10s as out 2s out 3s out 9h up 3d to space 4s-5h 3d-4s 9d to space 10s-jh 3d-4c 4s out 9d-10s 3d to space 4c-5h 9d-10s 9h-10s 3d-4c 8d up kc to space 4s out 3d out

over 99.9% of freecell are winnable but there a less winnable for 3 cells
you can never win games 169 178 285 454 575 698 617 657 775 829 or 988 in the first 1000
in fact 617 is one of the hardest with the 4 cells in freecell
I hope this helps
regards paul
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 1342
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Sunday, December 30, 2007 - 6:35 am:   

Hi Paul, You already told Charles how to win #21 on Sunday, November 04, 2007.
I get so bored at times I search through old posts and have had a go at every game that has not yet been solved. That's how I found a solution to #575 which has been posted as unwinnable. I've had no joy with the rest of the Three Cells but have not given up completely. I'll dig them out again the next time I've got nothing better to occupy me.
What are you doing battle with these days?
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul

Post Number: 401
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Sunday, December 30, 2007 - 6:52 am:   

Hi
silly me
I forgot the last message was on the bottom of the page rather than the top.

I am trying to get all the 630 games played again so i will have played most of all of them at least 10 times
and periodically i try the 7 impossible ones

Paul

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