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Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 931
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2008 - 10:14 pm:   

Richard, what's your best score for #1?
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2487
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 4:44 am:   

I've just given it a quick try and got 36 Ken. I feel it could go higher so I'll replay it for a while.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2488
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Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 4:56 am:   

No significant improvement yet. Just 38.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2489
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 5:17 am:   

44 may be my limit. How did you fare?
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2490
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 6:57 am:   

You've got a lot to answer for Kenneth my lad. Look at this tale of woe! Either I'm having a very bad day or Gregg was playing a blinder.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 932
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 7:29 am:   

Good! Then it's not just me!
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 933
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 8:46 am:   

Richard, Gregg won 4 of the first 17, according to the stats. So maybe he lost the first 5 also, like us.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 934
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 9:55 am:   

Gregg, When you're playing the game in standard mode, the clock resets when you replay the game. Is it designed that way?

P.S. My condolences over the Penn State game.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2491
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 12:22 pm:   

Oh well! Back to the drawing board. My winners were 6,13 and 15.
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Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2492
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 12:53 pm:   

#2 is winnable Ken.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2493
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 3:10 pm:   

#7 is also winnable, (but a real stinker).
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 935
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 4:12 pm:   

I got #6 and #15. My best score on #13 is 69, so I'll keep working on it, but I can't even match your initial score on #2. My highest score is 31. HELP!!!!!!!!
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2494
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 5:06 pm:   

The trouble is that there appears to be no way to save the games for the purpose of uploading them etc. I suspect this was the intention as it will stop people reloading a saved game after nuking their stats. You could simply save all your winners and start again from scratch. I will have a stab at rewinning #2 tomorrow Ken. There is a good film on TV just now and unusually I've not seen it before.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 936
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 5:39 pm:   

That's true in climb mode, Richard. But you can save and upload them in standard mode, and one could see how you won a game and take pointers from that.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2495
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 6:30 pm:   

I replayed it in Climb Mode and won it again! Yawn. I saved a couple of screen shots for you. I hope they help. I suspect we're not being very fair on other players doing their own thing in Climb Mode, including Gregg. Don't want to give the man a complex.

Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2496
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 6:34 pm:   

Sorry, first one is at position.... 9/13/34
Second one .... 38/02/38
Gregg Seelhoff (Seelhoff)
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Post Number: 348
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 - 3:42 pm:   

I spent all weekend making myself ill (and getting the Mac version ready, but don't tell anybody :-)), so here are a bunch of responses in one batch:

>what's your best score for #1?

My stats only show a 26.

>Look at this tale of woe! Either I'm having a very bad day or Gregg was playing a blinder.

Actually, my score on deal #4 is the same (51) and I won another, but my other three scores are lower than yours.

>Gregg won 4 of the first 17, according to the stats. So maybe he lost the first 5 also, like us.

No, I won one of the first five deals.

>Gregg, When you're playing the game in standard mode, the clock resets when you replay the game. Is it designed that way?

Yes. The clock only continues through replay in climb mode, by design.

>P.S. My condolences over the Penn State game.

Thanks. It shows that MSU still has some room for improvement. The talk around town has been the avoidance of SOS (Same Old Spartans). :-)

>My winners were 6,13 and 15.

Deal #6 is winnable? Drat.

>#2 is winnable Ken.

Yup.

>#7 is also winnable, (but a real stinker).

Yup.

>The trouble is that there appears to be no way to save the games for the purpose of uploading them etc. I suspect this was the intention as it will stop people reloading a saved game after nuking their stats. You could simply save all your winners and start again from scratch.

Actually, there is no way to open games in climb mode, by design (for the reasons you suspect). You can, however, save them, upload them, or open them in standard mode for analysis. (Once I improve two issues mentioned elsewhere, you should be able to simply download and open.)

>I suspect we're not being very fair on other players doing their own thing in Climb Mode, including Gregg. Don't want to give the man a complex.

My "own thing" is necessarily unique. :-)

On the following page, every game listed with only 1 player is mine:
http://scores.goodsol.com/topscores/scores/pgs/lis ting_gse.html

Don't worry about me...
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2499
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 4:39 am:   

Thanks for that lot Gregg! With all the free trime you appear to have, shouldn't you have run for President?
Until we get considerably more feed back from other players I'm still a bit apprehensive about us uploading solved games so that they can be downloaed. I'd have a degree of sympathy for someone who amassed a high score in a particular game and was then leapfrogged by a consortium of others. Personally I'm not bothered; my views on the stats (old) are well documented. I've also nuked my stats a few times in 101 already. Three times by accident, the rest intentionally. So until we get the views of a good few others, I think I may just upload pictorial clues. You still need to put in the work to reach these stepping stones. All they are doing is telling you if you are on the right track. Other opinions ar very welcome.
I wonder how long it will take me to make your link obsolete Gregg. Worry about you?!?!? You should be worrying about me......and my mental health.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 937
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 6:21 am:   

Richard, speaking of pictorial clues, I can get to the first screenshot of #2 really easily, but still haven't managed to get to the second screenshot, Any chance of you posting an interim screenshot? Thanks, Ken
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2501
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 7:10 am:   

Normally I'd have asked you to upload your partial Ken. But until we've got used to how to do things properly I'm pretty much at sea. I'll see if I can get random game to work in Forty Thieves. Last time I messed with it (to try to help you with one of these) I nuked my stats. I'm not worried about that though. Looks like I'll have to try and win it again. Mincedpig Day I think it's called.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2502
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 7:37 am:   

I see your problems with screenshots Ken. I couldn't even find my way back to the first one!
I did rewin it quite quickly however in a different way entirely. I hope the upload works for you. If not just get back to me. I left the game open so that I can go back to it if required.
application/octet-stream
Forty Thieves_2.goodsol (9.8 k)
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2510
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 4:43 pm:   

How are you getting on with #2 Ken?
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 942
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 10:29 am:   

Richard, check out the 40 Thieves stats. I beat Gregg by one game. When are you going to post your stats and put us both to shame?
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2516
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 10:48 am:   

I nuked mime remember?..... "I've also nuked my stats a few times in 101 already. Three times by accident, the rest intentionally".
I'll probably restart Forty Thieves soonish. As for puting you guys to shame I hope you never feel that that is my intention. I'm not at all bothered if I am above or below anyone. It's just a bit of fun. In the meantime you could practice typing "Et tu Brute"
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 943
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 12:09 pm:   

Now you're into nuking mimes? You don't love their "in a box" routines?
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2518
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 1:27 pm:   

Je ne comprends pas mon ami. Is this some quaint American thing?
BTW I've decided to restart 40 Thieves tonight.
Mike Butler (Butler77)
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Post Number: 932
Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 1:58 pm:   

I get it Ken. Richard does like Mimes. Nuke them. Not a bad idea. Or seal up their box and drop them in the ocean. They will find a way out then.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2519
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 3:09 pm:   

Ah! The penny has dropped. We're talking typo. My vision is distorted enough at the best of times but the letters are getting worn on some of the keys on the new keyboard already. Now the M and the N look very similar, and the H looks rather like a P. It says it was Nade in Chima.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2520
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 3:16 pm:   

I've decided to start 40 Thieves at game #20. I'll let you know which ones (if any) I win.
Mike Butler (Butler77)
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Post Number: 933
Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 5:00 pm:   

A mime is a terrible thing to waste. Not really.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 944
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 1:27 pm:   

Richard, any update on your progress on 40 Thieves? For me, #20-#22 are losers, but #23 shows promise. How say you?
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 945
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 1:51 pm:   

Got it!
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2527
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 1:56 pm:   

I've not done very well so far Ken. I'd go as far as saying I've done miserably. Some of these may be winnable, but I doubt it.

I may have another go at some point. Pressing on meantime.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2528
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Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 1:59 pm:   

You got #23! Well done Ken!
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 946
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 3:34 pm:   

I've been sick all weekend long so all I've been doing is watching James Bond movies and playing PGS. As for #23, here's A View to a Kill for your Goldeneye, Richard.
application/octet-streamFor Your Eyes Only
40thieves101_23.goodsol (9.1 k)
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2529
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 3:47 pm:   

I'd be sick too if I'd been watching James Bond all weekend. Did you see a Doctor? No?
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 947
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 3:53 pm:   

Very funny. Here's a Goldfinger right back at you. BTW, did you get my solution to open or are we still having problems?

Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 948
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 4:18 pm:   

Is this better?
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2530
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 4:24 pm:   

I didn't try to open your upload Ken until a minute ago. No joy. Gregg posted something recently appertaining to this. I'll have a look.
I doubt it it would open anyway as you've called it 40 instead of Forty Thieves. Is the 101 bit necessary also? So much to suss out.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2531
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 5:19 pm:   

I got it to work Ken. Firstly you have to click on the uploaded file and save it to somewhere you can find it. Next you need to open 101 (ENSURING THAT IT'S NOT IN CLIMB MODE) followed by Forty Thieves. Then it's up top left and click on "Game" follwed by "open". Hit browse and locate and highlight the downloaded file. Then it just opens like it always did. BTW when you are browsing for the file make sure that you have "all files" in the box (at bottom right of window) and not "Goodsol Solitaire 101 Files" as it suggests.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 949
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 - 7:41 pm:   

Richard, if your plan is to build my confidence by half-heartedly playing 40 Thieves, it's working! #27 was EASY!!!! (As was #29)
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 12:36 am:   

What's your take on #33?
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2532
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Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 4:54 am:   

I'm obviously playing them far too quickly. I did get #29 though. #33 is a bit of a puzzle. I can get a column free almost immediately. It looks like a winner but doesn't deliver the goods. I have got scores in the 50's but have yet to make a significant breakthrough. I do get the feeling that it must be winnable. I have one idea that I'm about to test drive.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 5:26 am:   

Yes it's winnable Ken. I saw the diamonds as the major obstacle and accepted the 7D into the empty column early in the game. Refusing to take the first 9S also made a big difference. I'd to do a fair bit of worrying back in the final stages of the game. I've saved it in case you need it.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 8:59 am:   

How about an intermediate screen shot?
BTW, my parents just came down today for a 4-month stay so my time on the board will be catch as catch can. How's your mother?
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2534
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 9:41 am:   

At this screen shot position I refused the 6C.

Your parents are down to keep an eye on you. You mum is gonna screw up your 101 stats unless you take action. I suggest you delete the logo from the desktop as I have done. You can open it from the menu after you click on the start button.
My mother is doing fine thank you. She thinks that everyone is whispering. You want to hear her when she thinks she's having a secret conversation with someone.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 6:47 pm:   

I FINALLY got it! This is how long it took me: the timer stopped at 99:59.9. Obviously Thomas and Gregg didn't think anybody would be dogged enough (or stupid enough) to play one game for more than 1 hour 40 minutes.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2535
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Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 7:08 pm:   

Well done Ken. 1hour 4o huh? And why not? I've spent longer on games before now.

Update for you.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2536
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 7:08 pm:   

Well done Ken. 1hour 4o huh? And why not? I've spent longer on games before now.

Update for you.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 953
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 - 9:00 am:   

38 was EASY, I'm not going to even try 37, but 35 certainly seems doable even though I can't get beyond a score of 58. Can you post an intermediate clue like last time? Hopefully it won't take me more than 100 minutes!
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2537
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 - 9:35 am:   

Yes, check my time with 38 too.


With second screenshot I ignored 9C on waste and assembled all the tableau clubs on column one. This frees up the spades and also releases the 3C.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 954
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Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 7:29 am:   

Got it! Thanks! Are you going to post your latest stats?
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2538
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 7:54 am:   

I don't think so. I just play this for fun. I'll let you know which ones I win. Just 41 and 46 to add to the above list.
Have you let your mother loose in PGS yet? Can I look forward to you posting ones she's stuck on?
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 955
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 8:07 am:   

No and yes
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2539
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Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 8:22 am:   

How very concise. I see Trisha has posted her stats for Forty Thieves. You're gonna have to pull your socks up mate.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 956
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 9:08 am:   

Got both of them. What was your best score for #45?
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2540
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 9:20 am:   

I don't know if it was my best score, but my recorded score for it is 50. Coincidentally I just won game #50.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 957
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 4:50 pm:   

Richard, I can't believe that you're having problem with #27. It only took me 6:48. Of course, on the other hand, even with all your screen shots on #2, I just gave up (for the sake of my sanity).
Mike Butler (Butler77)
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Post Number: 934
Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 6:07 pm:   

Richard went castle hunting and got locked in one of the dungeons.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 6:36 pm:   

That explains his absence from the boards. What's your excuse, Mike? What games have you've been playing recently?
Mike Butler (Butler77)
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Post Number: 935
Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 10:15 pm:   

I just got a Yamaha Audio mixer for Christmas. I have been trying to figure out how the stupid software works. Thomas and Gregg should do an audio mixing program. They would at least get it right and user friendly. I have been working on Forty Theives #2. And I played some Eight Off. Also trying King Tut. But now doing very well.
I will send you the audio I did up in Chico.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 3:09 am:   

Thanks, Mike. I really enjoyed it!
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2541
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Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 5:26 am:   

Re #27 Ken, I only spent a few minutes on it before I moved on either accidentally or deliberately. I had more than one game with no score! Looks like I'll have to pay more attention. Also regarding #2, I replayed it a few days later and knocked it out in 4.28. Of course by this time I knew the main pitfall and played the key card the second it appeared. It seemed a bit like cheating though. My stats have been wiped since anyway. Incidentally there is another winner in the first dozen which we both failed to solve first time round. I'll not spoil anyone's fun by telling you which one.
What would I be doing getting locked in a dungeon Mike (unless I was visiting some of my dodgy mates)? Perhaps you should be getting locked up yourself........for criminal abuse.....for abject cruelty.....to the aural receptors.
BTW was that a typo about you NOW doing very well?
Nice to hear that Ken enjoys "it". That's maybe another typo though. Perhaps he didn't hit the keys hard enough in the last word. Could have skipped a couple of letters.
Mike Butler (Butler77)
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Post Number: 936
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Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 10:58 am:   

Just call me Typo. The sixth Marx Brother. I am of course NOT doing well. Especially in Forty Thieves. I can't get #2. What is the key card? Of course you could get locked up. Going somewhere in one of thoses castles where you should not go. Like sitting on one of those benches no one ever sits on. Wait until my next little recording. You will really need ear muffs.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2542
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 11:26 am:   

With #2 Mike you should fill the empty column as soon as you see a 7D.
Yes it is only a matter of time before I'm invited to leave some stately pile. They want our entrance fees but don't want us taking photos for the benefit of our historically disadvantaged cousins across the pond.
My sympathy with the software. I don't know who writes half of the instruction manuals for everything we buy. Some pervs I reckon. They get their kicks at winding us up. I think I should market a CD to accompany all of these purchases. It would be nothing but a torrent of abuse and profanities directed at the publishers of the handbooks. It would make your purchase worthwhile.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2543
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 11:33 am:   

BTW,the reason no-one is ever sitting on the benches is because they are so hot. All the Scottish sunshine that follows Liz and me around heats them up. The prototype CD I've got playing may also have some bearing on the availability of seats..
Mike Butler (Butler77)
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Post Number: 937
Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 1:35 pm:   

The sunshine follows you around! When did that start? In the software I have. Cubase AI4. They talk about all this tutorial help available in some folder I can't find. When I called they told me to read the tutorial. Now I have to wait till Monday to call them back and tell them I read the basic tutorial but it didn't help. And I can't find their other folder which has stuff in it you are suppose to use to figure out the basic tutorial. Some of us will never get to Scotland. I hope that's not me. And all the information we can get is enlightening. What I have learned from your pictures and travelogue is even more places I want to see. BTW. How is the new cooker?
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 1:51 pm:   

I googled Cubase AI4 and got loads of stuff. Surely someone else has had the same problem. Have a look, you never know.
The Pound is weak against the Dollar just now. I hope some Americans take advantage of that. As you already know, I'm hooked on Scotland and have seen so much of it and yet I still have a list of parts I want to visit.
The new cooker is in the doghouse tonight. The oven temp is messing things up meantime. I'll master it.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 1017
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 6:02 pm:   

Is #53 winnable? The key seems to be getting the 3 of diamonds out.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2792
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 6:43 pm:   

I've failed to get near either of them too Ken. Could be unwinnable despite looking quite promising.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2793
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 3:14 am:   

I had quite a few goes yesterday, but managed this with the first attempt today. Never say never?

Do you want the solution?
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 1019
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 6:03 am:   

Not the solution (because that would defeat the purpose of 101), but how about a GOOD clue? Does the solution require one bringing down cards from the foundations?
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2798
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 6:18 am:   

Taking some cards back down does come into it, but I was doing that yesterday without effect. A good clue concerns the clubs. Make sure it's the 6 and 5 from column 2 that you put onto the 7 in column 4.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 1021
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 6:04 pm:   

Can anyone do better than 56 on #56?
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2802
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 5:11 am:   

Yes.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 1022
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 5:15 am:   

Richard, Like it was posted on another thread, you're a genius!!!!!!!!!!!
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2803
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 6:27 am:   

Maybe I should be running the banks.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 1023
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 4:24 pm:   

Did you say ruining the banks? That's already been done!
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2805
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 5:37 pm:   

They appear to have got off Scot-free.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 1024
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Friday, March 27, 2009 - 5:08 am:   

Well, I'll be a Yankee Doodle Dandy!
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2806
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Friday, March 27, 2009 - 5:46 am:   

It would have been appropriate if they had been run by Conadians, Sodu Arabians or even the Swizz. Would they Welsh on deals too?
Leaving on holiday on tuesday. Lots of stuff to do. Practically no time for Solitaire! Shock, horror!
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 1025
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Friday, March 27, 2009 - 10:27 pm:   

Waitaminnit........ My parents are FINALLY leaving (on Sunday) so I will have plenty of time to kibbitz and chat, and now you're leaving? Say it ain't so, Joe!
Mike Butler (Butler77)
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Post Number: 1037
Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Friday, March 27, 2009 - 11:52 pm:   

Does this area look familiar to anyone.The Hood
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2813
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 4:09 am:   

Somebody has been playing with the new Google Street Maps. looks pretty much like the street where I live.......I'VE GOT A STALKER!.....I wonder if he could be prosecuted? Invasion of Privacy perhaps? Or perhaps we could do a Capone on him and get him for something completely different. Breach of Copyright perhaps. You'll recall the incident when I took photos of neighbours kids during acts of vandalism, well when I looked at Google's imagery yesterday, I saw loads of images of children. Maybe I'll prosecute Google instead. Apparently there were images in London of a man being arrested, a drunk being sick, another guy leaving a six-shop, etc, etc. "Big brother is watching you" right enough. Maybe we could have them under the Discrimination laws. Many places haven't been touched.
Yes Ken, the inconvenience of our holiday coinciding with your parole release is a bit of a bummer. Perhaps they will reconsider their departure date. There was heavy snow 80 miles west of us yesterday, and it's arrived here this morning.Thankfully just light showers. Maybe your weather will deteriorate too. Maybe the three of you will get snowed in for a month or two. Wouldn't that be fun? Give you plenty of time to play solitaire and trade jibes etc with my good self. Should I pray for you?
I've told Liz that we're leaving on tuesday as planned supposing I've got to fit a snow plough.
Mike Butler (Butler77)
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Post Number: 1038
Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 10:25 am:   

Google certainly has more money than the poster of the picture. "I have NEVER walked on your street before". From the new musical.
Hang in there Ken. The bad weather up north will change eventually.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2815
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 10:44 am:   

"Hey babe.....take a walk on the wild side".

"Poster" you said! Are you one of those pin-ups?

Ken.....don't you dare say it would make a nice dart board.
Mike Butler (Butler77)
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Post Number: 1039
Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 1:39 pm:   

I am the poster child for. Oops. Can't say it. Perhaps the Three Stooges Fan Club. Do I need to look at a different part of the street? And Ken can't say dart board. He has a problem with his "D's".
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2816
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 2:20 pm:   

"Half-Wits Holiday" and "Hot Scots" are Three Stooges episodes apparently. I'm sure that's what my grandmother told me. Anyway we are more likely to be the first one, as the snow has started to lie a bit. Oh boy!
Ken has trouble with his D's? Plural? Like in double D's? Is that why he's been keeping his head down lately?
If you're back playing with Google Mike, you'll know when you find our place. It's the one with the turrets and the Rolls Royce parked outside the stables.
Mike Butler (Butler77)
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Post Number: 1040
Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 2:35 pm:   

I didn't see the Rolls. You must have been at the farmfoods. How do I get a membership in The Royal British Legion Social Club. Double D's. Ken will stumble over his tongue.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2817
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 3:46 pm:   

The Roller may have been parked at the Polo field. We bought a new string of horses. You can easily get a membership for the British Legion. Just join up. Maybe you'd like Afghanistan. Your mission....if you choose to accept it...is to email me pictures of every licenced premises in Inverurie. (You appear to have too much time on your hands). Consider getting another dog.
Forget I mentioned snow. I was just watching North Dakota footage on the news. They've not got their sorrows to seek.
Mike Butler (Butler77)
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Post Number: 1041
Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 4:11 pm:   

I haven't found many licensed places yet. I must be looking in the wrong places. It's quite a town. The Chartered Acountants have a nice building. As well as , what was it, Aston Scott? The Stock Brokers. And a new dog is in the works. Michael wants another Doberman. I liked touring your town. It's only recently that Google got the street level views of your area on line. Is all the housing controlled by the Council? No snow here. It's about 74 degrees.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2818
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 4:31 pm:   

Don't quote me but the Council may own about 15%. I can think of 15 8ars/clubs. There are probably more. Is Michael holding down two jobs now? Glad he can afford another dog. Huh!
Mike Butler (Butler77)
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Post Number: 1042
Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 12:03 pm:   

No more dogs. For now. Tomorrow is my wife's birthday and the present isn't here. I am going to be in deep stuff.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2821
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 12:20 pm:   

The present is always present. Thought you'd know that.
Mike Butler (Butler77)
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Post Number: 1043
Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 9:20 pm:   

My present is past. Of course my past was once the present. And now I am very tired.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2823
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Monday, March 30, 2009 - 2:53 am:   

Was your past raked up during the elapsed present dilema?
Mike Butler (Butler77)
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Post Number: 1046
Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Monday, March 30, 2009 - 11:43 am:   

I am sure I will get a not so gentle nudge about the present not being here. After all she mentioned it to me last Friday. BTW. I saw a large store. To the west of you. I think the name was Anderson's. What do they sell?
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Username: Tpa_ken

Post Number: 1541
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Saturday, September 25, 2010 - 3:44 pm:   

Playing Rough Rider has whetted my appetite for 40 Thieves again. What say you on #74? My best score is 63.
(Plus re-reading these old threads is a hoot. "A mime is a terrible thing to waste." Mike, you're so funny you should be on the stage. The next one leaves in 10 minutes!)
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 5825
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Saturday, September 25, 2010 - 4:28 pm:   

Got 56 at the second attempt Ken.

Mike really was on the stage when he was younger. He had his own brush and everything.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 5826
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Saturday, September 25, 2010 - 5:17 pm:   

Snap!
Mike Butler (Butler77)
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Post Number: 1885
Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Saturday, September 25, 2010 - 5:28 pm:   

Perhaps they still use stages in your part of the country Ken. But around here we use Limosines. And I have indeed swept up many a stage. I should have a masters degree in sweeping.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 5827
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Saturday, September 25, 2010 - 5:42 pm:   

This is the only variety of Limosine that's made it to Tampa so far Mike. They've got loads of them and are never short of bullxxxx as a result.
Kathy Quade (Kathyquade)
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Username: Kathyquade

Post Number: 1405
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Saturday, September 25, 2010 - 5:44 pm:   

You didn't give up playing Rough Rider did you, Ken? I'm still working at it. I never did get the games I was given partial solutions on except for #56. Otherwise, I just won random games, which I understand don't count with certain players. I'm supposed to start at 1 and go on from there. Funny, I never read that in the rules.
Mike Butler (Butler77)
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Post Number: 1886
Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Saturday, September 25, 2010 - 5:58 pm:   

He better not show up around here. The natives would be on him fast.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 5828
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Saturday, September 25, 2010 - 5:59 pm:   

Kathy, you can play the games in any manner you want. It's called freedom of choice. Some other players may choose to play games in numerical order because it is more difficult and more challenging. It also gives a more accurate picture of what the true winning percentage is.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 1542
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Saturday, September 25, 2010 - 9:19 pm:   

Or you can do what I do, Kathy, I do a mixture of both. I played Rough Rider #1-50, then I played another 50 games that were random. I usually will play a game 100 times and then move on. I love 40 Thieves games! It's just a matter of which one to play next (and that's no bull).
Kathy Quade (Kathyquade)
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Username: Kathyquade

Post Number: 1406
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Saturday, September 25, 2010 - 9:38 pm:   

I like Rough Rider so maybe I'll try some 40 Thieves games. I could never play a game 100 times. I usually give up after two.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 5829
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 5:06 am:   

Here is a News Flash for you Ken....... or should that be a News BULLetin?


PS, I had several failed attempts before I cracked it. Wanna partial?
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Username: Tpa_ken

Post Number: 1543
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 8:22 am:   

Richard, thy middle name is Tenacity!
(Richard Tenacity Trial?)
Yes please for the partial!
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Username: Richardscotland

Post Number: 5830
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 8:41 am:   

Liz must have that name open in the morning. I never look at them. That's why I botch so many stats.
You should see a few surprising cards in this configuration Ken. I had decided that some card or other was causing me the most trouble and undone until I got it into the tableau. Then it landed up looking messy like this. You'll have a lot of worrying back to do but I'm sure you'll manage.
application/octet-stream
Forty Thieves_74_Unusual.pgs (1.7 k)
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 1544
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 9:29 am:   

Ingenious solution!
THANKS!
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 5832
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 11:14 am:   

#6 is winnable. #4 MAY be.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 5833
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 12:55 pm:   

Mike Butler (Butler77)
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Post Number: 1887
Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 1:38 pm:   

Ok. I see the BIG? difference between Forty Thieves and Rough Rider. The display is a little different. You get to see the top card in Rough Rider. But if you have already won the hand in one or the other. What's the point? Just wondering. And it is very hot here. In the 90s.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 5834
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 2:36 pm:   

Just a subtle difference between the two. I'd not compared the two until just now.
In the 90's now Mike! Happy birthday.
Kathy Quade (Kathyquade)
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Post Number: 1407
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 4:34 pm:   

The only difference I can see is it seems it's easier to win 40 Thieves. I looked at the stats, and there are a lot of 100% winners. Even Ken has 90%. I didn't know it was your birthday, Mike?
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 1545
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 6:42 pm:   

EVEN Ken? Should I be insulted?
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 5835
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 6:48 pm:   

Better than being called ODD Ken though.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 1546
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 6:50 pm:   

Mike, I think you mean you can see the top card in 40 Thieves. In Rough Rider the top card in each column is face down.

(BTW, if it was low 90's in Florida, it would be the cool spell we've been praying for!)
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 5836
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 6:52 pm:   

Ah! Hot AND bothered!
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 1547
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 7:11 pm:   

This is interesting. I knew that 40 Thieves and Rough Rider were similar in layout but until Mike pointed it out, I didn't realize that the hands dealt out #1-50 were EXACTLY the same. I played the first 50 hands of 40 Thieves 2 years ago and I won 14, and just recently I played the first 50 hands of Rough Rider and I won 14 games. No big deal, right? But they were DIFFERENT hands that I had won! There were 4 40 Thieves hands that I didn't win in Rough Rider, and conversely there were 4 Rough Rider hands that I didn't win in 40 Thieves. I guess I've got some backtracking to do!
Kathy Quade (Kathyquade)
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Post Number: 1408
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 9:06 pm:   

Can you explain that in plain English, Ken? BTW, it's a balmy 48 degrees here in the Midwest.
Mike Butler (Butler77)
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Post Number: 1888
Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 10:36 pm:   

Oct. 4th is my birthday. Cake and ice cream will be available. If you buy it youself and eat it at your own home. I figured I got the order wrong between Thieves and Rough Rider. But I was to lazy to go back and check. I am not used to it getting over 80 degrees here at the beach. So almost 100 sucks.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 5837
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 3:39 am:   

Very interesting observation Ken. How about compiling a list of all the numbers you've won between 1 and 50 in either of the games? I've only the very recent stats to go on so I'll not be much help initially.
Here is our 5 day forecast. We're really cool kinda guys.
Kathy Quade (Kathyquade)
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Post Number: 1409
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 3:48 am:   

If you're 90 years old, Mike, nobody expects perfection.

Richard, can you give me the average weather there in Farenheit. That's what we use in the States. It's too early in the morning to look it up.
Markus Reischl (Markus)
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Post Number: 1660
Registered: 7-2009
Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 4:37 am:   

http://walking.about.com/library/cal/uctemp.htm

There you can let convert them.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Username: Tpa_ken

Post Number: 1548
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 4:56 am:   

Richard, now we know why you play so much PGS. If it rained all the time in Florida, I would play it a lot more, also! (And the wind speed! WOW!)
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 5838
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 5:21 am:   

It doesn't rain all the time. We get a very varied selection of weather. I'm sure Markus will tell you that in the near future,fresh water is going to become an increasingly scarce commodity worldwide. It will become a very valuable resource. Wars may be fought over it. People will be praying for rain.
We have had some exceptionally high winds lately. They are usually nothing like that. I'm blaming Mike and his Santa Ana winds. It could of course be coming from Washington. I hear that there is a lot of hot air and wind concentrated there.
Where have you been hiding Markus?
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 5839
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 7:43 am:   

Ken,
50,46,45,41,38,35,32,31,29,27,23,16,15,13,6,7,8,2.
Those appear to be the only ones I've won in the first 50 of Rough Rider/40 Thieves.
Have you any others?
Kathy Quade (Kathyquade)
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Post Number: 1410
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 1:23 pm:   

Markus hasn't been hiding. He's been subtly attacking me every chance he can get, and I'm getting tired of it.
Markus Reischl (Markus)
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Post Number: 1662
Registered: 7-2009
Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 1:55 pm:   

Just tell me Kathy with which post i was attacking you within the last two weeks.
Kathy Quade (Kathyquade)
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Username: Kathyquade

Post Number: 1411
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 2:10 pm:   

You attacked me because you said I wasn't qualified to compete with you and Richard. You made fun of my highest winning score of 11 saying it didn't count, and you wouldn't even let Richard let me know what the temperature was in Scotland instead you gave me a link to look it up when I was dead tired in the middle of the morning, and it wouldn't have taken Richard more than a few seconds to let me know. Just forget about it. All of you men in this forum stick together, so you don't have to worry about any lack of friends.
Markus Reischl (Markus)
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Post Number: 1663
Registered: 7-2009
Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 2:34 pm:   

Sorry, Kathy, when that post was an attack for you, then go with your paranoia against me to a psychatrist and don't bother me anymore.

Just for information: I am working at time about 10 to 12 hours a day and i found today morning still time to look for a link, where you can convert the temperatures and that is an attack and not a help, sorry, ...
Mike Butler (Butler77)
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Post Number: 1889
Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 4:16 pm:   

The internet is at times not a very good medium for expressing ideas. You cannot see the persons face you are communicating with. And cannot hear their voice. Ideas and suggestions are often missinterpreted. Remember. 95% of the time everyone here is just trying to help. So accept the other 5% as a poor choice of words or just being overzealous in trying to help. I expect a lot of congratulatory messages for my 39th birthday btw. One candle will be acceptable on your cakes. All 39 are not necessary. Gifts are not expected. But all will be greatfully appreciated.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 5840
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 5:51 pm:   

Glad you've taken my advice about the candles Mike. The heat off that quantity would take the paint off the door.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 1549
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 11:38 pm:   

Richard, two years ago I won #14 (and it only took me 14 minutes) and #33 (99:59 minutes), and btw, when I was looking through the posts, I thought I saw a post that said you won #37? Am I mistaken?
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 1550
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 1:56 am:   

Kathy, do you like musicals? It's my favorite thing (next to PGS). Check out this clip!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Doz5w2W-jAY
Kathy Quade (Kathyquade)
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Username: Kathyquade

Post Number: 1412
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 3:35 am:   

One of my favorite songs from "My Fair Lady", although my favorite is "I've grown accustomed to her face." Thanks for leading me to those clips. I lost my VHS tape of My Fair Lady and my record, and now I can listen to the songs whenever I want.

Wait a minute, that wasn't a dig was it? I thought you were just being kind. I'll take the latter. You couldn't be unkind, not Ken.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 5841
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 4:53 am:   

I was trying to keep out of this lose/lose situation. I could be accused of "sticking together" with the men in the forum if I sided with Markus, or of not defending his imperfect English if I sided with Kathy. But as always I will just have to speak my mind and tell the "truth" (as I see it).
It is VERY easy to pick faults in everything if you put your mind to it. You can see slights and digs that nobody else can see. If you are insecure then you will be CERTAIN that people are having a go at you when in reality they are not.
I have trawled through the posts of the last couple of weeks to try and identify the problem. It appears to have stemmed from a post made by Markus regarding Windsor Castle. He pointed out correctly that Kathy could not compare her stats with his or mine unless she was playing the identical numbers. That is perfectly true. He never said that she must play Windsor Castle in climb mode, but pointed out that the two of us were doing so for our own amusement and to try and find out what an accurate winning percentage would be. We both had our maximum non-winning score of 9 with the same game number. Kathy had one of 11, but as it was actually winnable it couldn't qualify as the highest non-winning score. It would be a bit like saying my highest one was 53 simply because I didn't bother putting the final card up.
In summary I think that Shakespeare wrote a play about this. He called it "Much Ado About Nothing".

Now let's move on with a clean sheet.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 5842
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 4:59 am:   

Drat! I appeared to have ignored you Ken. I will investigate 14 and 33 and also 37!!! I'll get back to you.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 5843
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 5:12 am:   

I hate to say it Ken, but #37 was easy. Right out at the very first attempt. (Don't put the first 2S up).
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 6:11 am:   

I am getting into the high 50's with the other two. Have to go out now. Will try again later.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 7:36 am:   

Kathy, my favorite "My Fair lady" song is:
"I'm getting married in the morning
Ding Dong, the bells are going to chime!"

It USED to be Mike's favorite song, also!
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 5845
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 8:43 am:   

It may just be a coincidence Ken but there is a well known phrase in the English language......"ding dong battle". I hope you are not suggesting that matrimony and warfare have a lot in common. You don't want to disillusion Mike do you?
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 5846
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Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 11:37 am:   

59 is my best effort with #33 Ken. Oh so close! I'll get it yet.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 5847
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Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 2:54 pm:   

14 has finally fallen.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 1552
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Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 6:40 pm:   

Any updates on #33?
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 5848
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 6:51 pm:   

Yes. It's giving me brain damage!
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 5849
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 6:59 pm:   

The more I play it the more convinced I am that it's unwinnable!
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 1553
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Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 8:17 pm:   

Richard, I was about ready to GLOAT until I saw this post from 2 years ago about #33:

Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 2533
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2008 - 5:26 am:

-------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------
Yes it's winnable Ken. I saw the diamonds as the major obstacle and accepted the 7D into the empty column early in the game. Refusing to take the first 9S also made a big difference. I'd to do a fair bit of worrying back in the final stages of the game. I've saved it in case you need it.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 5850
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Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 4:53 am:   

I had re-identified the 7D as a major stumbling block Ken, but this had been creating other ones with the spades. No matter what combination of moves I've chosen so far, I can't get a 7D,a 4S and both 2S's into the tableau at the same time. I appear to have properly identified the way to get a column cleared very early in the game......but is this the route I discovered years ago?
I don't suppose you saved it did you? I must have deleted my solution at some point. I land up with 1000's of them.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 1554
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Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 6:01 am:   

I didn't save it but you posted a screen shot Nov 30, 2008. Go further up this thread and check it out.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 5852
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Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 7:40 am:   

Thanks Ken. I didn't think that I may have posted a screenshot previously. That was all the help I needed to rewin it...............help from an eggspert.
application/octet-stream
Forty Thieves_33_EGGSpert.pgs (3.9 k)
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 1557
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Posted on Saturday, October 02, 2010 - 2:14 pm:   

I know I'm a glutton for punishment but I'm replaying the first 50 games. #5 shows some promise. My best score is 41. Richard, am I just being greedy? Or do you also show some promise to it?
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Posted on Saturday, October 02, 2010 - 3:28 pm:   

I only have 34 recorded for it Ken. I'm busy just now. Will try it later.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 5865
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Posted on Saturday, October 02, 2010 - 4:47 pm:   

I have reached your 41 Ken, but by that time columns are choked by spades. Both 4S's get buried very early so it must be unwinnable.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 1602
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Posted on Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 2:01 am:   

How about #103? My best score is 68.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 5996
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Posted on Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 4:12 am:   

First attempt scored 58 Ken. I get the impression that the 5D is the key card. This one could actually be winnable.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 5997
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Posted on Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 4:55 am:   

I had it up to 63 before starting undoing. There isn't much getting in the way of winning it.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 1603
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Posted on Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 6:27 am:   

You can get a space right away, and I got 68 by putting 5D in the space, but I couldn't get it any higher.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 6:45 am:   

Got the space immediately too Ken, at 2/57/2. See pic. Which of the two 5D's did you put into the space? BTW we woke up to a covering of snow today.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 6:48 am:   

The first one. I tried experimenting with the second one but I didn't get as far. I would have saved a partial for you but you can't do that in PGS101.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 5999
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Posted on Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 7:57 am:   

I've exhausted all of my ideas Ken. I think you have maxed it out.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 5:23 pm:   

Trisha, do you ever win this one?
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 6001
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Posted on Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 6:33 pm:   

Ken, I've not managed your 68 but I've reached some very interesting positions with scores in the high 50's. Can you post a couple of screenshots? One where you have the 5D in the tableau and one of another postion. I'll try to duplicate them and then work on your 68. With a score as high as that it seems like it must be winnable, <aybe just a bit of fine tuning. It's half past midnoght here now. I could have a bash later on this morning.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 6002
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Posted on Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 7:11 pm:   

Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 1606
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Posted on Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 8:13 pm:   

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How EVER did you do it?
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 6003
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Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 3:07 am:   

A total rethink about which problems were the most critical was required.
Let me know when you manage to get to this screenshot position. If you can't get it from there I will post a further screenshot. You should be stunned at one of the cards you see here.
Position 5/42/14
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 3:19 am:   

Still a huge task Ken. Here is a more advanced screenshot too. Position 11/31/20
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 6:32 am:   

I can't wait to try it, Richard, but alas and alack, I have to go to work. I will post next when I have either have it or need more clues.
THANKS!!
Patricia Traynier (Trisha)
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Post Number: 183
Registered: 3-2007
Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 8:44 am:   

Ken, I don't know if I ever won #103. I got a new laptop a couple of months ago and didn't save my scores.I have replayed it a few times without any success.
Ken Blackwell (Blackie9)
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Post Number: 528
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Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 10:34 am:   

It was a nice. Took me over an hour.

thx for the #
Ken Blackwell (Blackie9)
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Post Number: 529
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Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 10:37 am:   

BTW, looking at your screens now Richard, I went about it entirely different than you.

so several, or at least two, paths are viable.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 1608
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Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 5:51 pm:   

Thanks for checking, Trisha. Same thing happened to me: I got a new computer a couple of years ago and I didn't save any of my old victories. (I'm regretting it now!)
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 6:49 pm:   

Thanks, Richard. It only took me 45 minutes AFTER I got to your 2nd position.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 3:57 am:   

Well done Ken. I'd rate it as the most difficult yet. It may well be that any game where we can score high fifties or into the sixties could be winnable. Famous last words?
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 6:31 am:   

#105 is a fun one. It took me 25 minutes.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 7:20 am:   

Agreed, but what kind of a score can you get with 106?!?!?
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 7:31 pm:   

If you can get more than 12, I'll be impressed!
Mike Butler (Butler77)
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Post Number: 1945
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Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 10:29 pm:   

I got 13.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 1612
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Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 11:37 pm:   

I'M IMPRESSED!!!!!!!!!
Mike Butler (Butler77)
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Post Number: 1946
Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 12:05 am:   

As you should be.
Markus Reischl (Markus)
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Post Number: 1715
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Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 1:23 am:   

Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 1613
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Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 4:06 am:   

I say #115 is unwinnable because both 4D are buried. So Richard, work your magic!
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 6009
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Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 4:08 am:   

Light weights!



(I'd bet that Mike would be delighted to be called a lightweight).
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 6010
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Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 4:15 am:   

Feather weight!
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 6011
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Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 4:24 am:   

Game #115

Position 8/22/20
Position 8/22/20
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 4:28 am:   

Sorry, second position is obviously 9/22/20
Markus Reischl (Markus)
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Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 6:35 am:   

Richard, nice 44 points with #106.
Markus Reischl (Markus)
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Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 7:21 am:   


Richard, your first position is practically won.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 7:48 am:   

Re #115..... Yes, but would you have managed it unassisted? The second position is just the first one with the cards rearranged. The trap there would have been to put the J,10,9H onto the QH and release the AC.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 9:16 am:   

Richard, was this song written about you?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoZUQ0QC19c&feature =related
Mike Butler (Butler77)
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Post Number: 1947
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Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 1:23 pm:   

Ok. I have #106 to 20. Wonder what to do next.
Markus Reischl (Markus)
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Post Number: 1718
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Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 1:39 pm:   

Can't say, Richard, maybe. May starting sequence leads me to about 50 points and after that, i have had about another 15 minutes to play. I am not very common with Fourty Thieves. It is one of the games i still haven't won. I just played once #1 (1st of february), which is unwinnable, and that's it. I read all your posts and so i decided to try #106 and got the 2nd time your 44, and then also #115, but it is a game, where are so many possibilities and a simple card can change everything and i mostly don't have the time to solve all the problems, which are hidden in the game and when i read that Ken needs 45 minutes to get to your screenshot, then it is a game, which is of course very challanging, but only, if you have the time to play it on a roll (?). I will maybe try a few more in the next week (our free week in autumn), but after that i think i have to cancel it again, because of a leg of time (?).

P.s.: i am not sure, but i have the feeling, that after a bottle of 8eer and 3 glasses of champagne (?), my English is better than normal or is it a wrong estimation (?) because of the alcohol?
Patricia Traynier (Trisha)
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Post Number: 184
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Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 2:07 pm:   

Hi Mike,I did it by not playing the qs onto the king and only playing one of the 6s.Most of the scoring comes after the stock is empty.
Mike Butler (Butler77)
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Post Number: 1948
Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 2:20 pm:   

Thanks Trisha. That's how I got to 20. Actually 21 now. I have two spaces open. But those darn spades are driving me crazy. Of course the hearts are not much help either.
Patricia Traynier (Trisha)
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Post Number: 185
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Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 2:43 pm:   

Here is my way of scoring 44, if you want it.
application/octet-stream
forty thieves 106.goodsol (5.4 k)
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 6014
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 2:50 pm:   

Heart and "Magic" eh Ken? How about your namesake Steve Miller? I was thinking along the magic thread with "Abracadabra" but I'd settle for "The Joker".

Markus, Forty Thieves can eat up many, many minutes. Sometimes there may only be one route to get in amongst the cards and do some damage. Finding that route can be almost impossible on occasions. I never pay any attention to the clock because I am paying close attention to every card that comes out of the deck, and making mental notes of places where I made decisions that I was not 100% happy with. I'm sure Ken is doing the same. We don't mind now long it takes because we are enjoying the challenge. I know your time is quite limited so you are happiest with less complicated games. If/when we are stuck on one we would appreciate your input. We may get you hooked too. Your English is better with a few drinks, and you actually LOOK better when I've had a few too.

Here is the 44 Mike.
mac/unknown
Forty Thieves_106.pgs (2.3 k)
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 6015
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 2:56 pm:   

Sorry Trisha. Our posts overlapped. I'd not have bothered if I'd known you'd posted it.
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 1616
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 3:30 pm:   

Markus, I figured you would like 40 Thieves. It's like a reverse Thieves of Egypt.
(And Richard is right. We both love a challenge!)
Markus Reischl (Markus)
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Post Number: 1719
Registered: 7-2009
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 4:08 pm:   

It's not, i wouldn't like it, but when you have just for example 30 minutes time to play, then Forty Thieves is a game, where a simple game can take much more time. When you then have to break the game in the middle, then you forget a lot of moves and cards which are making problems and you have to start over again. That's the problem for me, i don't have mostly the time to spent more then 1 hour on it and when i have that hour, i am very happy. But i promise i try to find some time to make also some input.

Richard, Forty Thieves is a game i don't look for the time at all. I just try to win it.
Mike Butler (Butler77)
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Post Number: 1949
Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 9:44 pm:   

Thanks Richard and Trisha. I saw my mistake.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 6018
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Sunday, October 24, 2010 - 4:25 am:   

Markus. Try #123. It won't take you long. It is the lowest scoring F.T. I have ever seen.
Markus Reischl (Markus)
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Post Number: 1722
Registered: 7-2009
Posted on Sunday, October 24, 2010 - 7:05 am:   

You mean those 4 points in 90 seconds?
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 6019
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Sunday, October 24, 2010 - 7:29 am:   

Exactly. That will be hard to beat.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 6020
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Sunday, October 24, 2010 - 7:57 am:   

What number have you reached now Ken? What winners?
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
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Post Number: 1618
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Sunday, October 24, 2010 - 3:13 pm:   

You're ahead of me Richard, but I've had a run of luck (or is it skill?) I've won #114-117. What # are up to?
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 6021
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Sunday, October 24, 2010 - 3:29 pm:   

Got all of those winners Ken. Have reached 126 with 4 more winners. I started playing FT so that Mike could catch up a bit with Block. At least FT is interesting to play. We have workmen arriving tomorrow. I'll may not get time to play any more until after they've gone. 2-3 days?
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 6026
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Monday, October 25, 2010 - 3:23 am:   

I'd appreciate any comments about #127. It looks winnable but it's refusing to yield.
Markus Reischl (Markus)
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Post Number: 1723
Registered: 7-2009
Posted on Monday, October 25, 2010 - 5:49 am:   

First attempt: 61/0/27 . Second: 62/0/27 .

The problem is that there are low Hearts (2H, 3H) and low Spades (2S) buried deeply in the waste.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 6027
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Posted on Monday, October 25, 2010 - 6:35 am:   

Thanks Markus,I have saved it at 65 scored, but I'm sure I had a 66. I'm beginning to think it may not be winnable.
Markus Reischl (Markus)
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Post Number: 1724
Registered: 7-2009
Posted on Monday, October 25, 2010 - 9:31 am:   

I think there is no chance to win it. There are too many high cards blocking the small ones and the sequence the cards are dealt is at the beginning not good.
Markus Reischl (Markus)
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Post Number: 1725
Registered: 7-2009
Posted on Monday, October 25, 2010 - 9:43 am:   

Had another look on it. First picture is maybe the best start. Position: 33/16/29

That is leading to: 66/0/20
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 6028
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Monday, October 25, 2010 - 12:36 pm:   

My tableau at stock of 16 and waste of 29 is very similar to yours Markus, but I have two more empty columns than you. I've not got much time to play it at the moment.
Looking at you second screenshot, undo until you have an empty column and take the KH down from the foundations. Then the second one will go there and leave you with 19 of a waste instead of 20. The card underneath the KH may be playable.
Markus Reischl (Markus)
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Post Number: 1727
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Posted on Monday, October 25, 2010 - 1:19 pm:   

1. I can get your position. (I oversaw to put a JD down.)
2. In my 66 solution i cannot hold the KH, there is then just one free cell less to put it onto the foundations.
3. I can lead your screenshot only to 65 points.

GOOD LUCK and let me know, if you could score more.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 6029
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Monday, October 25, 2010 - 2:07 pm:   

I told you I'd saved my 65 position. I forgot to save my 66. Here is the 66 now.
You will see that the KH could be put down into the tableau as I'd said in my previous post. The card beneath the second KH was indeed playable. Position 66/0/18, (two fewer in the waste).
Markus Reischl (Markus)
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Post Number: 1728
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Posted on Monday, October 25, 2010 - 2:19 pm:   

The position at the end is the same. It seems, that in my 66 solution i could use the card earlier. But still not winnable.

BTW i tried to put down the KH, but it seems, that i didn't find the combination to use the KH in the waste.
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
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Post Number: 6030
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Monday, October 25, 2010 - 3:33 pm:   

For anyone else who is following what's being said....At any point that you had an empty column you could have put the KH down into it and put the QH on top of it. That left a QH on the foundations for the second KH to go onto.
Anyway Markus, I'm practically certain that we won't improve our score to 67 far less 104. It's a loser

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